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dooob ago

Great post, OP. @Vindicator what now? This clearly proves the image is not a deep fake photoshoped.

Sadly, this post will be slid. @srayzie

srayzie ago

I was busy yesterday because of Father’s Day. This sure is ruffling some feathers! I’ll read thru everything in a little while. It looks very interesting.

dooob ago

Make sure to also check out

https://voat.co/v/ProtectVoat/2596821

srayzie ago

I’m on the fence. So far it doesn’t seem to be photoshopped according to anons. At the same time, it seems too good to be true. I’m curious to see where this goes.

dooob ago

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2596487/13068187

I am still 50/50 on this, why is Arthur Davis standing next to this guy and why did the girl who posted this tag it "Class & grace", a Hussein quote? Really puzzling and a wild ride, this couldv very well be a trap for Q and/or his followers.

Why did the girl who posted this say she deleted the Hussein photo because of hostility n shiet (heavily paraphrasing)? Q's words "use logic" heavily influenced my opinion to very much lean towards this being Hussein.

Either way, psyop or not, the story did a major blow on @Oh_Well_ian's credibility and I am confident he wont use the same methods to manipulate opinions.

@Oh_Well_ian I am not done with you yet, now I have my eyes on your comments. You wont dare make another disinfo submission but you will definitely continue doing it in the comments. How do you sleep?

bopper ago

It's like DNA, I don't think I could sit on a jury if DNA was involved cause I don't understand it and could not make a decision or judgement in good conscience.

Same with this, you have to know Photoshop to be fully persuaded, or to not be. The only other option is to trust another's judgement, but it's still trusting another and it's not of your own persuasion. Something like that.

dooob ago

Check my reply to srayzie, forgot to tag you, short: photo is not shopped, the dude wearing it is some other guy who might be worth digging into.

I am in no way a photoshop expert, but from my research I did on this I found out faking the particle stuff is very hard. If we use logic, could a teenager have these skills without ever showing them? Very unlikely, thus why I think it is not l33t photoshop either.

bopper ago

Thanks I appreciate it. OWI just by the way isn't a shill, apparently you guys just disagree and both of you feel 'passionately' about it. He's been posting on pizzagate for almost two years. But I don't want to get involved, just wanted to say that.

dooob ago

I am sorry but I am convinced. I am only passionate about the truth, nothing else. If I am wrong, I am willing to admit it, correct my mistake and make sure to not make the same mistake again. I recommend to read my original report on him where I detail the first red-flag and other instances of his shillary dealings.

Let me put it this way:

We know there are paytriot. We know there are disinfo twitter accounts, we know the reddit Q subreddit is controlled, who are voat's disinfo agents? Our enemy didnt just send anti-Q shills. Attacks from all sides.

bopper ago

No problem, we'll agree to disagree on this.

Oh_Well_ian ago

Tell you what, shitbag stalking faggot.. When Q uses this pic and verifies it, then I will believe it.

Otherwise, all the additional aspects of the 'proof' being conveniently ignored in this submission, like the date and the so-called connection between Obama and the account on IG that shared it, show just how lazy you are.

You're so down with what's happening with Q but you're completely ignoring this DOOBIUS pic was 'released' within hours of Q posting a pic of Barry Obama and his Paki college roommate. Any comment on that relevant pic? I thought not. Funny thing about that pic from the 1980's >> IT'S FAR BETTER QUALITY than your phony Holy Grail Obama-Moloch larp.

And just what would this mean if it's real? What weight would it carry in a court of law? NOTHING. It's sensational, at best. Obama is going down because there is a paper record of his treason and witnesses to his sedition, not because he donned a bedazzled horn dress.

Again...let's see what Q says, if anything.

dooob ago

You got eyes on you now, I wonder how your next fuckery will pan out.

I never said it was Obama in the picture ;)

Edit:

Forgot to ask, why arent you replying on Crensch post?

How do you post all day all night?

Oh_Well_ian ago

dooob, your 3 month whisper campaign on me and your bitchery is not going to work. Crench completely destroyed any credibility he had as an honest mod with his AWS like parsing of the debunk. He lied by omission and did what every other shill pushing the LARP has done. You and he snuck off at 3am like a couple of faggots and posted that pathetic gaslight of my character and reputation. It didn't debunk the debunk. It was pure snark. I will not address him, because he is now a Millenial Falcon level gatekeeping douche. Just like you. A sneaky little faggot. You spend so much time being a catty little cunt on this sub with your 'I told you szrayie!! I told you!!' gossip, you have no time left over to offer any analysis or unique insight. You are going back on <block> faggot. Drop dead.

Oh.. one more thing > Q is not going to confirm that shit. You better prep yourself.

dooob ago

Alrighty mr photoshop expert

Boban_Rajovic ago

this is literally the same type of vocabulary as the GA reddit mods lol

and I'm pretty sure this OWi was posting on that subreddit at some point, the nickname is eerily familiar

Oh_Well_ian ago

ooooh…. you found me out 5 day faggot / I'm a Reddit mod lol

you're cuntery is more than eerily familiar

Welcome to Voat <block>

Boban_Rajovic ago

damn shills, literally same behavior/vocabulary, that's exactly how you can spot one lmao

Rotteuxx ago

Hey reddit fag, where's my block mother fucker ? umh... I mean, baby dick sucking kike !

Oh_Well_ian ago

thanks for reminding me..

see, you are good for something, after all

Vindicator ago

Well, photoshop did not play a big roll in my flairing the post in the first place...I was still waiting for a reply about how one proves or disproves something has or hasn't been photoshopped. The problem I have is headlines saying "Moloch Obama". Even if the pic is real, how can anyone prove this is actually Obama? The guy is wearing a mask.

dooob ago

What about the guy next to Obama?

https://kek.gg/i/5ktHnp.jpeg

Ignore the occultism part if it is not your cup of tea.

Vindicator ago

What about him? I'm not seeing your point.

dooob ago

Artur Davis... Least you could do was skim through the infographic I posted and you would see what my point was. Are you getting enough sleep?

Vindicator ago

Your infographic was impossible to read on either of my devices. How about just coming out and stating your point? If it's so straightforward, that should be easy to do in a few sentences, with links to the original sources of the supporting material.

dooob ago

Are you honestly telling me this infographic was so hard to read you couldnt spot Artur Davis? The infographic was taken from /qresearch/ notables, fyi.

Why are you so hostile towards me?

Crensch ago

He's not being hostile there, bud. He's asking you to state your point directly, and telling you that the image you provided doesn't work on his devices.

Both Vindicator and I want the source of the claims, but we also want the claims, which it seems you've not presented at this point in the conversation.

A question and then an infographic, even one the user can read, sometimes doesn't serve to communicate what you're wanting to communicate.

I think you both could use a breather, but I'm not going to tell you what to do.

@Vindicator

Vindicator ago

No, I'm telling you I don't see how Artur Davis being in the pic proves the person behind the mask is Obama.

Why are you so hostile towards me?

I think you may be projecting. You keep trying to "read" motives and emotions into my replies. I've had over 60 notifications in my inbox over the past two days of people attacking each other. It is not clear to me who is correct. I have been working 12 hour days in real life and not reading every comment on every thread in v/pizzagate, v/GreatAwakening, qresearch etc. We've also had an onslaught of posts with numerous links to vet, as well as numerous posts ignoring the ruleset. My time is limited.

And when I ask clarifying questions, I get responses like this, implying I'm the asshole, rather than the simple elucidation I requested.

@Crensch @think-

dooob ago

How am I projecting? Do you think my outrage was unjusted? You gave a speech about fighting disinformation to a literal disinformation agent and you not only refuse to apologize but you try to turn it on me? Because I call out bullshit, I am the aggressor?

This all couldv turned out differently if you simply said "Oh damn, sorry people, I am overworked and made a mistake. I'll do my best to not do it again." Simple. What do you do? Avoid admitting to the mistake and try to turn it on me, first with the "oh isnt it weird dooob didnt tag us on his report on v/pizzagatemods, oh very weird" coincidentally ignoring the fact you were pinged by one of the mods thus you shouldv been informed about OWi's subversion attempts.

You are handling this whole situation very wrong, in my opinion. How egoistic are you to not being able to admit when you are wrong? Sorry for being so blunt but you gotta hear it from someone.

@Crensch @think-

I do not understand why Vindicator tagged you but you should also see my comment, coin has two sides n shiet.

My eyes are wide open, V.

Vindicator ago

You gave a speech about fighting disinformation to a literal disinformation agent and you not only refuse to apologize but you try to turn it on me? Because I call out bullshit

Who do you think needs a lecture on fighting disinformation, Dooob, if not those participating in it? Isn't that what you yourself are attempting to do?

@Oh_Well_ian is not the only user who challenged the thesis of this thread, he just bitched the loudest and happened to be the comment I replied to.

This all couldv turned out differently if you simply said "Oh damn, sorry people, I am overworked and made a mistake.

What do you mean "This could have turned out differently?" Please explain.

Dooob, I don't see how it was a mistake to flair the original thread "Unverified" based on the user comments in the Chan thread and threads on Voat, and then, a full day later, again based on user commentary, change the flair to "Debunked." Even the original submitter agrees.

In v/pizzagate, one of the most shilled locales on the internet, the burden of proof rests on the submitter. Our entire ruleset is set up to weed out BS. The submitter must state a thesis about PG relevance and support his logic with links to primary sources. Moderators make sure those elements are in place. Users judge the value and veracity of the post by commenting, contributing additional research supporting or challenging the thesis, and voting. Moderators occasionally use flairs to draw attention in order to facilitate that discussion by users.

The original thread by @IShallNotFear, This deserved it's own post: Possible Obama dressed as Moloch photo found on Instagram, proposed this was a picture of Obama. After seeing the topic flogged so hard on multiple platforms (both pro and con), the downvoting of skeptical commenters here, the use of the topic to provoke and attack users and create a toxic atmosphere, the timing of it all during the IG report, the fact that a known guy with similar smile lines wore the exact same outfit to Burning Man https://i.imgur.com/YBCPIhX.jpg, and that the title of the post itself fuels Confirmation Bias, I thought it wise to flair this thesis "Debunked."

Please explain how I have in any way been "irresponsible," "made a mistake," "handled this situation wrong" or been "egoistic" such that "this situation could have turned out differently."

@Crensch @think-

I do not understand why Vindicator tagged you but you should also see my comment, coin has two sides n shiet.

Don't be coy, Dooob. As you well know, I pinged them because you pinged them to your claim I'm "irresponsible" in the first place and they have been awaiting my input.