i actually know someone who invested in twitter and made a fortune...by investing against their success. They bought some convertible bonds and then shorted and covered every time it went up, so that they made a killing when it went back down but still had some hedge, fuckin brilliant
yup, US govt uses taxpayer money and its treasury Ponzi scheme to prop up tons of businesses that they pretend to be totally private and to fund its war machine
In the case of Twitter I agree it is poorly managed, but merely having a loss on the income statement because of stock-based compensation charges doesn't necessarily lead to that conclusion.
I don't even understand why anyone uses twitter. It's not fun to use, it's not informative. What's the draw? I kind of get the feeling it's just a chat bot & PR testing ground. Just a bunch of bullshit text getting posted 24/7 by automated processes.
run an intelligence agency do we? how many agents do you have in the field gathering intel? What are your collection methods? How much money do you spend on informants? I would like to know, because the only way you would know the CIA is running a chop shop is if you worked for the exact department operating in the dark, or had your own assets spying on them. Having actually worked in intel, the left hand doesn't have a clue what the right is doing. That's the beauty of secrecy and compartmentalization.
Imagine it happening, one day: all - every single one - of those self-righteous SJW dorks in Palo Alto and surround areas suddenly have no work, because all the tech companies they worked for were run from the swamp, which has been drained. It's such a sweet thought. May it be so.
Just imagine it: all the commie delusions, until that point propped up by an inflated sense of how smart and successful their perpetuators are, suddenly living in the gutter, working at Starbucks because nobody else wants them.
Joke is on you. There isn't enough work to go around. If they had to work for a living you'd make even less money in your paycheck. This was the real cause of the Great Depression: Everyone underbidding one another just to have a job. We decided to ratio them with the 40 hour workweek. We all should be working less, not more.
Wage suppression and spillover effects are real things. You might be employed, but that doesn't mean you couldn't be making more money if all of your wealth wasn't being taken by the bankers.
I said "work", not "employment". I'm already fucked. My industry is already overrun with imports of low skill, for low wages. I'm turning my entire yard into garden, by May next year, my family will be 80% fed from our own land. I'm taking a break from earning money, as it is not worth my effort to go compete with all these "underprivileged minorities".
And whom do you think would last longer in such a situation: someone who's had it a bit rough but kept on going, or someone whose boss made sure he had blue jello in the cafeteria, 24/7?
I see those in the former, above, moving more toward self-reliance and traditional family structure. Good luck getting the latter faggots anywhere near that shit.
You're thinking too small. When no one is making enough to feed themselves because we're competing against robots that work for the price of electricity, it'll be a shooting war. Sure, the jello lovers won't survive, but quite a few of the rough and tumble types won't either.
Wages are already so low that families aren't having kids because they're too expensive. The genocide has already started and if it doesn't speed up it will stay silent.
It's not unusual for a business to run at a loss with the intention of growth. The company had $2.22 billion in revenue in 2015 alone...they just spend more than they make. All earnings reports include adjusted esrnings and investors and analysts tend to look at multiple numbers. Twitter's problem as the article states is their user growth, partially due to bias and the black rimmed, fedora wearing SJWs that seem to dominate the platform yet suck so bad they provide little revenue.
Being known for censorship, and bans is not really helpful to your business, because people don't want to invest time in a platform that will yank the rug at any moment.
No shit. Tons of internet companies run at a loss, and have questionable funding sources. You think the stupid banner ads on some websites make enough in sales to pay for hosting? They don't.
And the new-age apps that are repeats of craigslist sections, but with minimal vetting (uber, date sites, airbnb, etc) are loss leaders.
They also need to realize their twitter platform is garbage. I couldn't even sign up, and they asked to call me (robo-call). I did it, and it didn't even work. Plus, they are trying to make Twitter a walled garden. You can't even click on certain items.
Murdoch bought Myspace to replace it with Facebook. All social media is MSM. Every major site is a tool for the elite. Their cataloging our faces, our voices, our interests, our connections, and our opinions.
They are only projecting when they talk bots and fake news that need to be dealt with - this is literally what they've been doing with twitter since it launched
So your view is that there are literally tens of millions of fascists to be found amongst US citizens? I guess the corollary argument would be that [fill in the blank with a prominent Democrat] supporters are communists?
You get downvotes because you're a whiny bitch. If you made a sensible argument against Trump, and didn't just spout dumb phrases like "Trump supporters are fascists" - you might find people are willing to engage in discussion. Why would anyone want to have a discussion with a whining mouthpiece like yourself? Your victim mentality just invites downvotes.
Trump supporters are WINNERS you fucking dork. Get that through your psychotic little pea brain. YOU'RE A FUCKING LOSER. And you'll be a loser for the next 50 years. You'll die a loser. Hillary will go to jail.
Those right wing death squads keeping you up at night? Those no blacks allowed signs you see everywhere bothering you. Blacks being lynched in every neighborhood making it difficult for you to get around? Women being fired by every corporation making you fret? You must be on the run from Trump's collection of every democrat voter for the gulags. Poor you.
If you had something meaningful to contribute you wouldn't get downvoted. Instead all you have is empty ad hominems.
On the other hand, your posts are still here. They're harder to see, but you're not being silenced. If your posts on reddit or twitter or facebook were commiting wrong-think they'd be deleted.
Because in this instance CIA stands for Culinary Institute of America and they were hoping to get in tight with the Russians for access to their babushka's borscht recipe.
I wouldn't call it a tool for suppressing free speech or spreading propaganda, I would call it a test bed platform for those things but they really don't have a clue how to do either while turning a profit.
Dr_Shekel_Nigger ago
i actually know someone who invested in twitter and made a fortune...by investing against their success. They bought some convertible bonds and then shorted and covered every time it went up, so that they made a killing when it went back down but still had some hedge, fuckin brilliant
bluedeath ago
Right along with Yahoo and their Tumblr lovechild all paid for with central bank purchased junk bonds
MasivGam3 ago
Why CIA?
Why everyone here is so obsessed with CIA?
CIA is a government agency. They are old, big and ineffective! They are a fucking bureaucracy!
Oh_Well_ian ago
retarded and uninformed comment
MasivGam3 ago
ooIoo
NotHereForPizza ago
You're thinking of Operation Mockingbird.
Twitter's symbol kinda looks like something, right?
Oh_Well_ian ago
yep... I sure am thinking of OMock
NotHereForPizza ago
The more people know, the better
eqi397 ago
yup, US govt uses taxpayer money and its treasury Ponzi scheme to prop up tons of businesses that they pretend to be totally private and to fund its war machine
i am surprised US govt hasnt gone bankrupt yet
Samsquamch ago
When you have $2.22 billion in revenue in one year and no physical product to deal with, I guess I'm not understanding how you still lose money
Oh, it's poor management and planning.
Thisismyvoatusername ago
In the case of Twitter I agree it is poorly managed, but merely having a loss on the income statement because of stock-based compensation charges doesn't necessarily lead to that conclusion.
elitch2 ago
(((employees)))
kevf4 ago
They gave out half a billion in one year while never turning a profit. Sounds sketchy.
Oh_Well_ian ago
embezzlement
GODFREY1096 ago
((( 1984 )))
BestCaseOntario ago
It is a real business. It's the business of getting free gibs from the federal reserve to brainwash us. Fuck twatter.
neuroelectronic ago
I don't even understand why anyone uses twitter. It's not fun to use, it's not informative. What's the draw? I kind of get the feeling it's just a chat bot & PR testing ground. Just a bunch of bullshit text getting posted 24/7 by automated processes.
Thisismyvoatusername ago
I like Twitter. It is a very quick and effective way to get a broad array of news and analysis. It all depends who you follow.
elitch2 ago
No shit. Same goes for fb, gogol, and many more.
Greenzero86 ago
Apple, amazon, and gab as well.
Cooking_with_Alf ago
No evidence CIA is involved. Mussies own the damn thing. Fuck em. Stop using the damn thing and let those mussie tards go bankrupt.
elitch2 ago
cia/mossad runs the mudslime invasion.
Cooking_with_Alf ago
run an intelligence agency do we? how many agents do you have in the field gathering intel? What are your collection methods? How much money do you spend on informants? I would like to know, because the only way you would know the CIA is running a chop shop is if you worked for the exact department operating in the dark, or had your own assets spying on them. Having actually worked in intel, the left hand doesn't have a clue what the right is doing. That's the beauty of secrecy and compartmentalization.
elitch2 ago
Classic cia misdirection technique.
Nice try.
Cooking_with_Alf ago
prove it
jimdean19841776 ago
So many Leftists losing money spreading their agenda, it's almost as if they are part of an in-group that can print money.
goatsandbros ago
Imagine it happening, one day: all - every single one - of those self-righteous SJW dorks in Palo Alto and surround areas suddenly have no work, because all the tech companies they worked for were run from the swamp, which has been drained. It's such a sweet thought. May it be so.
Just imagine it: all the commie delusions, until that point propped up by an inflated sense of how smart and successful their perpetuators are, suddenly living in the gutter, working at Starbucks because nobody else wants them.
What a world it will be.
Mylon ago
Joke is on you. There isn't enough work to go around. If they had to work for a living you'd make even less money in your paycheck. This was the real cause of the Great Depression: Everyone underbidding one another just to have a job. We decided to ratio them with the 40 hour workweek. We all should be working less, not more.
elitch2 ago
Nope. People with actual skills never have trouble finding work. Be like me, turn your yard into productive garden space.
Mylon ago
Wage suppression and spillover effects are real things. You might be employed, but that doesn't mean you couldn't be making more money if all of your wealth wasn't being taken by the bankers.
elitch2 ago
I said "work", not "employment". I'm already fucked. My industry is already overrun with imports of low skill, for low wages. I'm turning my entire yard into garden, by May next year, my family will be 80% fed from our own land. I'm taking a break from earning money, as it is not worth my effort to go compete with all these "underprivileged minorities".
goatsandbros ago
And whom do you think would last longer in such a situation: someone who's had it a bit rough but kept on going, or someone whose boss made sure he had blue jello in the cafeteria, 24/7?
I see those in the former, above, moving more toward self-reliance and traditional family structure. Good luck getting the latter faggots anywhere near that shit.
Mylon ago
You're thinking too small. When no one is making enough to feed themselves because we're competing against robots that work for the price of electricity, it'll be a shooting war. Sure, the jello lovers won't survive, but quite a few of the rough and tumble types won't either.
Wages are already so low that families aren't having kids because they're too expensive. The genocide has already started and if it doesn't speed up it will stay silent.
ConservativeDev ago
It's not unusual for a business to run at a loss with the intention of growth. The company had $2.22 billion in revenue in 2015 alone...they just spend more than they make. All earnings reports include adjusted esrnings and investors and analysts tend to look at multiple numbers. Twitter's problem as the article states is their user growth, partially due to bias and the black rimmed, fedora wearing SJWs that seem to dominate the platform yet suck so bad they provide little revenue.
123_456 ago
Being known for censorship, and bans is not really helpful to your business, because people don't want to invest time in a platform that will yank the rug at any moment.
Diogenes_The_Cynic ago
No shit. Tons of internet companies run at a loss, and have questionable funding sources. You think the stupid banner ads on some websites make enough in sales to pay for hosting? They don't.
And the new-age apps that are repeats of craigslist sections, but with minimal vetting (uber, date sites, airbnb, etc) are loss leaders.
123_456 ago
They also need to realize their twitter platform is garbage. I couldn't even sign up, and they asked to call me (robo-call). I did it, and it didn't even work. Plus, they are trying to make Twitter a walled garden. You can't even click on certain items.
ComfortablyCaucasian ago
Murdoch bought Myspace to replace it with Facebook. All social media is MSM. Every major site is a tool for the elite. Their cataloging our faces, our voices, our interests, our connections, and our opinions.
elitch2 ago
*they're
And you are absolutely correct. DO NOT USE "FREE" SERVICES.
TNSTAAFL
SlappyHo ago
Voat is free. Should I stop using it?
Ho-Lee-Fuk ago
I paid for voat.
elitch2 ago
We donate, ass hat. You should donate too.
Fucking freeloader.
SlappyHo ago
Ill do what I want with my money, thnx. Voat is free.
elitch2 ago
Nigger's gonna nig.
ComfortablyCaucasian ago
Oops. Thanks.
TNSTAAFL?
elitch2 ago
There's No Such Thing As A Free Lunch
Heinlein, The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress
maltespier ago
They are only projecting when they talk bots and fake news that need to be dealt with - this is literally what they've been doing with twitter since it launched
gazillions ago
It's certainly somebody's tool for propaganda and brainwashing.
PsyOp ago
It's certainly (((somebody's))) tool for propaganda and brainwashing. Fixed it.
JohnCStevenson ago
You mean how Voat spreads Trump propaganda, and censors people they don't like?
Oh, but you don't care, since it's your side. Trump supporters are fascists.
Thisismyvoatusername ago
So your view is that there are literally tens of millions of fascists to be found amongst US citizens? I guess the corollary argument would be that [fill in the blank with a prominent Democrat] supporters are communists?
KosherHiveKicker ago
You need to get that near-terminal case of chapped ass checked out..... and you might want to also review the actual definition of Fascist.
Naught405 ago
John, censorship is when the platform prevents you from speaking, not when you get called out for being a beta cuck faggot.
DamoclesofBenghazi ago
I downvote you because I'm a homophobe!
Ho-Chi-Min-Me ago
You get downvotes because you're a whiny bitch. If you made a sensible argument against Trump, and didn't just spout dumb phrases like "Trump supporters are fascists" - you might find people are willing to engage in discussion. Why would anyone want to have a discussion with a whining mouthpiece like yourself? Your victim mentality just invites downvotes.
elitch2 ago
What censorship? We've got beta faggots like you all over the place. Nice try, commie.
gazillions ago
Trump supporters are WINNERS you fucking dork. Get that through your psychotic little pea brain. YOU'RE A FUCKING LOSER. And you'll be a loser for the next 50 years. You'll die a loser. Hillary will go to jail.
Those right wing death squads keeping you up at night? Those no blacks allowed signs you see everywhere bothering you. Blacks being lynched in every neighborhood making it difficult for you to get around? Women being fired by every corporation making you fret? You must be on the run from Trump's collection of every democrat voter for the gulags. Poor you.
Mylon ago
If you had something meaningful to contribute you wouldn't get downvoted. Instead all you have is empty ad hominems.
On the other hand, your posts are still here. They're harder to see, but you're not being silenced. If your posts on reddit or twitter or facebook were commiting wrong-think they'd be deleted.
Drop_Nukes_On_Israel ago
People on Voat aren't censored, nigger. Just downvoted. On Reddit, you get downvoted THEN censored.
the_magic_man ago
If it's a cia tool, why did they go to RT and try to get them to spend on election propaganda?
Thisismyvoatusername ago
Because in this instance CIA stands for Culinary Institute of America and they were hoping to get in tight with the Russians for access to their babushka's borscht recipe.
Gamio ago
I wouldn't call it a tool for suppressing free speech or spreading propaganda, I would call it a test bed platform for those things but they really don't have a clue how to do either while turning a profit.
fartyshorts ago
https://kek.gg/i/6rWvT7.png
Blackrock, eh?
Thisismyvoatusername ago
Why are you specifically focusing on Blackrock?
fartyshorts ago
Mostly because Ronald Bernard pointed them out; https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1817747