IMPORTANT: A new finding on the McMartin case. New Red Pill Evidence. (pizzagate)

submitted ago by angelafogo

I will write this post fast & hard so the message sticks.

The McMartin abuse scandal was the flag of the Satanic Ritual Abuse panic in the 80s. The case was delegitimized intentionally in order to install the idea that there was a paranoid witch hunt in the american society with no real evidence. Abused children showed real signs of abused corroborated by experts. Also they spoke of tunnels below the school which were never corroborated by the police, though the media used the statement to further reinforce the theory of all being fabricated fantasies of the children. Fact is there are tunnels, the families of the abused children dig them up in the 1990s."The tunnels are extensive, include a large room just as the children said, and lead to further sites off the property. The tunnels were found in an archeological dig under the pre-school conducted by Dr. E. Gary Stickel, archaeologist and director of Environmental Research Archaeologists, a Scientific Consortium." Here is the link http://web.archive.org/web/20010412085022/http://members.cruzio.com/~ratf/McMartin.html

And now, the most important part of my findings. Paul and Shirley Eberle were the authors chosen by the Cabal to dismiss the McMartin abuses as fantasies and paranoia, bringing down the entire SRA panic to a mockery. He wrote "The Abuse of Innocence" which is basically a lie and established the idea that children were forced to declare fantasies. The Eberles also wrote the Politics of Child Abuse (Secaucus, N.) Lyle Stuard Inc., 1986) which centers on the McMartin case as the bellwether of the nationwide “child abuse witch hunt” (p. 285) “resulting in the devastation of innocent peoples lives and families (p, 283). Both books lionized defendants and defense interests while defaming everything and everyone associated with child protection. Such polemics also illustrate the gospel of the dual attack on child protection. Ritual abuse cases are first debunked as de factor frauds, then all sexual abuse complaints are tarred with the same brush..” We believe that every molestation case in which there has been a conviction should be reopened and reviewed.” (The Politics of Child Abuse, p. 284). The Eberles have been cited as experts in sexual abuse trials. They were featured speakers at a conference of the Victims of Child Abuse Laws, a group formed to protect accused parents.

** Now, who were the Eberle?** This is where it gets interesting. The Eberle were publishers of and Underground magazine called FINGER (a word easily recognizable by the pedocommunity and widely used in the Elsagate videos). This magazine featured zoofilia, scat, S&m and yes, pedophilia. So i found a cover of the mag. And check the title "Masters, Slaves, Babies, Dog, etc" Editorial by Paul & Shirley Eberle. (if somebody can archive this image please)

https://www.iberlibro.com/INTERNATIONAL-FINGER-No-43-Paul-Shirley/1057155501/bd#&gid=1&pid=1

I also found this issue complete. It features a lot of hardcore stuff. https://archive.org/details/Finger1980D.D.TeoliJr.A.C.1

Check this out https://ia902903.us.archive.org/3/items/Finger1980D.D.TeoliJr.A.C.1/Finger%201980%20D.D.%20Teoli%20Jr.%20A.C.%20(4).jpg

So basically what you have just read is evidence that the writers that wrote the book which summarised and delegimitized the McMartin case (which mas the most important case of the SRA panic in the 80s) and which were later cited for counsel on how to make the McMartin movie (Indictment) which was based, of course, on their book, yes, they were publishers of the most important pedo-magazine in USA.

“the Eberles were the most prolific publishers of child pornography in the United States” a statement made by Sgt. Toby Tyler, a San Bernadino deputy sheriff who is a nationally recognized expert on child pornography. The Tampa Tribune-Times, July 25, 1993, p.10.

Please help me spread this like wildfire and archive everything.

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angelafogo ago

Mods just banned me on 4chan. This article worries them. Please anybody can inform the 4chan guys of this voat post and that i have just been banned?

QisforQuakery ago

Your big info on the Eberles and Finger has been on their Wikipedia page for at least 10 years. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Paul_and_Shirley_Eberle&type=revision&diff=788676916&oldid=329392068

And you don't need the Eberles to know there was something wrong with the McMartin prosecution, a prosecution that resulted in a spectacular failure.

After six years of criminal trials, no convictions were obtained, and all charges were dropped in 1990

This is a pretty big clue. And why didn't they get convictions?

The initial accusations were made a woman who was mentally ill. She claimed Ray Buckey could fly. She said her son had his tongue stapled and scissors were put into his eyes. Of course, there was no evidence of these injuries because they didn't happen. The cops and prosecutors knew she was mentally ill, but this was kept from the defense. A prosecutor quit over evidence being withheld from the defense.

Other accusations claimed Chuck Norris would stop by the preschool and abuse the kids. Children would be flushed down a toilet.

Fact is there are tunnels, the families of the abused children dig them up in the 1990s."

This is false. There were not tunnels. The children were not flushed down toilets to clean them up before they went home. There were not orgies in car washes. The children were not routinely flown to other cities. This all the results of pressuring kids into answering the same questions over and over over until they start making stuff up to satisfy you. We know a lot more about how to interview children than we did in the 1980s.

When they looked for tunnels, they found the concrete slab the pre-school was built was pretty much undisturbed...i.e. there was no tunnel access at all. The did find stuff under the house, but they didn't find anything that would keep a tunnel from collapsing, especially one that had people walking right above it. They found an old mailbox and bunch of cans and bottles from 30's through 50's. The preschool was built in 1966. Basically what they claimed were tunnels was the old trash pit for the house which was then filled in and the concrete foundation poured over.

https://journals.uic.edu/ojs/index.php/bsi/article/viewFile/77/96

mrohm ago

Read Ross Cheit's The Witch Hunt Narrative. He febunks all of your claims.

QisforQuakery ago

I'll take it that febunk means falsely debunks?

3141592653 ago

No. Those are the lies they tell.

angelafogo ago

Your tone stinks of shillery my friend. Nothing of what you have stated is true.

My investigation shows actual images of the magazines from the Eberles, the pedophile experts in child abuse. Your link just states the Eberle published porn magazines. That is clearly not enough.

Regarding tunnels, i will copy a fragment of Dr Stickel findings "The depth of the tunnel in the room-like area was a little more than 6’8″, which would have permitted most adult males to stand upright. In contrast, the depth of the tunnel in the passageway leading up to the room-like feature was more shallow, at an average of 5’11”, which would have required most adult males to bend over when walking through the passageway"

SO YES, THERE WERE TUNNELS, AND THEY TOOK YEARS AFTER THE TRIAL AND A HANDFUL OF CIVILIANS TO FIND THEM. NO AMOUNT OF SHILLING DEBUNKING WILL ERASED THAT.

SHED LIGHT ON THE VAMPIRES

QisforQuakery ago

My investigation shows actual images of the magazines from the Eberles, the pedophile experts in child abuse. Your link just states the Eberle published porn magazines. That is clearly not enough.

My point was the Eberle's are not central to the idea that these charges were unfounded. It doesn't matter who they are or what they did. It was the longest trial in California history and resulted in zero charges and juries are eager to convict child molesters. It's obvious just from that fact that something was up with this case. And that something was the authorities handled wrong in about every way they could. It went from a mentally ill woman making charges about one boy to the police setting off a panic.

Regarding tunnels, i will copy a fragment of Dr Stickel findings

Stickel's "findings" are the very things are the very things addressed and refuted in the link I provided. https://journals.uic.edu/ojs/index.php/bsi/article/viewFile/77/96

In fact Stickel was brought into the case, precisely because NO TUNNELS WERE FOUND. So they switch theories, tunnels existed, but the defendants filled them in with small amounts of dirt over a long period. Quoting from the link I provided.

While it was true that there were no tunnels evident upon investigation of the property, some of the parents believed that the children’s reports of tunnels should be investigated further. This was because, as Stickel rightly pointed out, the site may not have been properly secured by the police. The defendants had maintained access to the preschool for more than a year after the initial allegations had come to light. Some parents believed that the defendants could have filled the tunnel spaces by gradually bringing in dirt in small amounts so as not to have been noticed. It was thought that an archeologist, trained in soil compaction and artifact analysis, could best determine whether there had ever been tunnels under the preschool.

Thus, I obtained a copy of the report and reviewed it. Finishing my review, a more plausible conclusion than that of the archeologist emerged—that evidence of filled-in tunnels had not been found. Rather, Stickel had found a family trash pit of the type that was, and is, often dug on the property of rural homeowners. Often such a pit is dug by hand. Old bottles, tin cans, table scraps, metal objects and other trash are disposed of in the pit. Combustible refuse is sometimes burned in the pit. When the pit is nearly full, a new pit is dug in the space beside the first pit, with its dirt used to cover the first pit. hen covered with dirt as a third is dug, and so on until, over many years, a string of pits has been dug, each filled with trash, and covered with a thin layer of soil. This string of covered pits might later give the appearance of having once been a tunnel. This, most likely, was the archeologist’s discovery

what they found in the soil under the concrete slab of the preschool was a lot of garbage, including the old mailbox from the previous owners, bottles and cans from the 30 to 50's, broken china, etc. All of this points to this being the previous owner old trash pit. Furthermore the link I provided points to the conclusions of the team that did the ground penetrating radar tests. This is part of Stickel's own report

Introduction

On May 8 and II, 1990 Spectrum Environmental Services, Inc. conducted a ground penetrating radar (GPR) investigation on the McMartin Preschool Facility located at 931 Manhattan Beach Boulevard in Manhattan Beach, California. The purpose of the investigation was to identify areas of disturbed soils which could indicate below ground tunnels.

Methods

Our approach was to conduct a GPR investigation to determine areas that may represent disturbed soils inside and adjacent to' the pre-school building (see Figure One). Both north/south and east/west traverses spaced approximately five feel apart were established by Spectrum with GPR data collected continuously along each traverse.

The equipment used in this investigation included a GPR with a 300 and 500 MHz antenna.

Results

In Areas One, Two, Three, and Four, (see Figures Two, Three, Four, and Five) the GPR depth of penetration was approximately 8 to 10 feet below ground level. No evidence was found to support the existence of filled-in below ground tunnels.

Donald J. Kirker Project Manager

Let me repeat that

No evidence was found to support the existence of filled-in below ground tunnels

Aasb ago

I know too little about this case. Can anyone support what the poster wrote here? Even if it goes against the narrative, its important to know the truth rather than play confirmation bias. Other than that I still find it pretty weird that a couple who were publishing hardcore fetish porn with shit and stuff are entitled to be experts on child abuse cases. Also their books were published by Prometheus Books. Prometheus = Lucifer. This publisher is all about scepticism and atheism.

Here is an amazon review I copied:

Paul and Shirley Eberle: A Strange Pair of Experts by Maria Laurina

Paul and Shirley Eberle wrote The Politics of Child Abuse, a book that accuses mothers, mental health professionals, and prosecutors of feeding children stories about sexual abuse. Since the book was published by Lyle Stuart in l986, the Eberles have been cited as experts in sexual abuse trials. They were featured speakers at a conference of the Victims of Child Abuse Laws, a group formed to protect accused parents. What is startling about the Eberles' reputation as ground-breaking experts in the field is that their dubious credentials have not been widely challenged. Paul and Shirley Eberle edit a soft-core magazine in California called the L.A. Star that contains a mixture of nude photos, celebrity gossip, telephone sex ads, and promos for The Politics of Child Abuse. In the 1970's, however, the Eberles were also publishing hard-core pornography. Their publication, Finger, depicted scenes of bondage, S & M, and sexual activities involving urination and defecation. A young girl portrayed with a wide smile on her face sits on top of a man whose penis is inside of her; a woman has oral sex with a young boy in a drawing entitled "Memories of My Boyhood." The Eberles were featured nude on one cover holding two life-size blow up dolls names "Love Girl" and "Play Guy." No dates appear on the issues and the Eberles rarely attach their names, referring to themselves as "The L.A. Star Family." The Eberles were the distributors of Finger and several other underground magazines, says Donald Smith, a sergeant with the obscenity section of the Los Angeles Police Department's vice division who followed the couple for years. LAPD was never able to prosecute for child pornography: "There were a lot of photos of people who looked like they were under age but we could never prove it." The pictures of young children in Finger are illustrations, and child pornography laws were less rigid a decade ago than they are today. "Sexpot at Five," "My First Rape, She Was Only Thirteen," and "What Happens When Niggers Adopt White Children" are some of the articles that appeared in Finger. One letter states: "I think it's really great that your mags have the courage to print articles & pixs [sic] on child sex...Too bad I didn't hear from more women who are into child sex...Since I'm single I'm not getting it on with my children, but I know of a few families that are. If I were married & my wife & kids approved--I'd be having sex with my daughters." Another entry reads: "I'm a pedophile & I think its [sic] great a man is having sex with his daughter!...Since I didn't get Finger #3, I didn't get to see the stories & pics of family sex. Would like to see pics of nude girls making it with their daddy, but realize its too risky to print." Lyle Stuart plans to print the Eberles' forthcoming book on the McMartins preschool trial. Carole Stuart, the publisher, describes the Eberles as "experts in the field," and family friends "for years."

@angelafogo @sandhog @think-

QisforQuakery ago

Prometheus = Lucifer

This is not true. From Wikipedia

In Greek mythology, Prometheus meaning "forethought") is a Titan, culture hero, and trickster figure who is credited with the creation of man from clay, and who defies the gods by stealing fire and giving it to humanity, an act that enabled progress and civilization. Prometheus is known for his intelligence and as a champion of mankind and also seen as the author of the human arts and sciences generally.

3141592653 ago

A similarly titled book called "The Politics of Ritual Abuse" is wonderful, and proved the Eberles are full of shit.

SandHog ago

Well, that's pretty damning if true. What the hell is wrong with these people? While I am not familiar at all with these people or any of the court cases they were involved with it sounds like the magazine's main purpose was to recruit pedophiles with access to children people more than anything.

It's been a long time since I read over any of the material regarding McMartin. IIRC there was a lot of physical evidence found on the children but the case really hinged on the 'expert' testimony. If these were some of the 'experts'...yikes.

think- ago

Other than that I still find it pretty weird that a couple who were publishing hardcore fetish porn with shit and stuff are entitled to be experts on child abuse cases.

You'd be surprised how many people who have served as 'experts' in sexual abuse trials (later) turned out to be pedos.

It might be important to keep a list of these cases/names. @angelafogo @letsdothis3 @Vindicator @darkknight111 @ASolo

The first who comes to mind is Ralph Unterweger, a former member of the False Memory Syndrome Foundation, who was an 'expert witness' at countless sexual abuse trials.

When it was confirmed he was a pedo they had to throw him out, but the damage was already done.

Another case I remember was in Norway, where a pedophile 'expert witness' made influenced the decisions made in family courts.

angelafogo ago

Sargent Kouba works as an abuse victim counsellor. But on the weekends he is Podestas lapdog when he goes child hunting on the weekend. I made a post about him.

ASolo ago

False Memory Syndrome "experts" and deponents also revolve back into my research into the mkultra mind control handlers who masquarade as professional "magicians" -starting with the "`Amazing Randy"

3141592653 ago

FMSF also has strong cia connections

angelafogo ago

Thats all taken from an article from Maria Laurina. The most important aspect of my investigation is the actual images of the magazines, not just accounts, they effectively show they were pedo related and published by the Eberle. i have read accounts of this magazines being exposed in conferences and the photos inside there were children smeared with feces. Being told about it was not enough. An image is worth 1000 words. My article got hot in 4chan, and they banned and deleted once, somebody reposted and it got hot again so they closed the thread. This is a very easy red pill, they know it, so thats why we should concentrate on spreading it. The evidence is undeniable (just like Pizzagate was) and i understand scepticism over something as blatant as this, but thats how they work, their hold of the media and the information they feeds us is very strong. Look at this recent finding. LA STAR was published by the Eberle as well.

http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1551895977287.jpg

angelafogo ago

Too late. They deleted my post which was being stirred too much for their taste.