I have made a decision to alter and/or remove various restrictions on Voat. I’ve thought a lot about this and it’s something both @Atko and I believe needs to be reevaluated.
Voat has always had a problem with spam. @Amalek would spam posts and hijack the new queue making it unusable. MH101 and then later @SaneGoatiSwear would hijack comment pages making them unusable. The rules Voat uses were put in place in to combat this behavior. They are old rules, mostly remaining unchanged from the initial versions of this site. Most, if not all, of the rules were in direct response to spam attacks. It was never Voat’s intention to limit non-spam accounts, but this is what has happened as an indirect result of these rules.
Voat will not keep in place a system that permanently limits a segment of users from debating and conversing. This isn’t Free Speech as I see it or as I want it.
Voat will shortly be going live with a new code base, and I want to have a new system designed and ready for when this happens, so I am posting this announcement to get feedback from the community.
The main areas of concern:
- Commenting restrictions on negative CCP accounts that aren't spamming their comments
- Limiting any account that spam comments
TL;DR
We need to allow unpopular opinions while preventing comment spam.
How do we do it?
All options are on the table
https://voat.co/v/announcements/1330806
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Shillfest2017 ago
What about all the blatant child porn? Do something about that.
Tor1 ago
Voat is not your pizzagate personal army.
I'm glad you're here and this place is here for you. But only so long as you respect the other users here and aren't an existential danger to the site itself.
I don't want your kind leaking into Voat as a whole and bringing your Puritan Insane Clown Posse to Voat in general.
People like you don't necessarily have Voat's best interests at heart.
You are such a zealot for your cause that you'd destroy this entire forum so long as it served your morality crusade.
Shillfest2017 ago
What in the hell are you talking about? Hosting child pornography is illegal. Maybe I'm misunderstanding you, but you seem to be advocating for it to stay. I hope I'm wrong in that assumption.
When did a dislike of pedophilia ever go against anyones best interests?
Also, fuck you.
Tor1 ago
This unhinged response is what I'm talking about.
You aren't here on Voat to merely have your say.
You are hysterically agitated about something that's beyond your control.
You are seeking exceptions to other users abilities to have their say.
There is a procedure to deal with what you dislike. You are free to follow that procedure, or find some other more restrictive forum elsewhere.
What's great about Voat is this kind of behavior is not long tolerated here.
Go ahead and make some more hysterical claims and threats until you accumulate enough downvoats that no one has to listen to you.
That is the genius of the current restrictions, I see no reason to lift them.
They exist to keep destructive users like yourself from wielding any power or ruining the peaceful use of Voat free of your islamic outrage.
Shillfest2017 ago
I think you're really grasping buddy. When did you decide I was Islamic? Haha
These comments of yours are great.
Tor1 ago
You're some kind of holy roller I'd bet.
Pizzagaters are at their best when focused on the criminal elites and their oppressive shenanigans.
Leave us plebs and mundanes in peace please.
Shillfest2017 ago
You seem to know us "pizzagaters" pretty well. I'd be more than happy to leave a bigoted and ignorant fool like yourself alone. Please go crawl back under the rock you came out from.
Tor1 ago
I like you guys, but surely you understand Voat's hosting of your investigations is a brave and risky stance for free speech.
It's kind of galling, your complete lack of gratitude.
Do you know what situational awareness is. You are poking some very powerful hornet's nests, and Voat is nearly completely powerless and without allies.
Shillfest2017 ago
So you're trying to say that by asking for child porn to be removed from the site, I am not showing gratitude? When did it become okay to have child pornography anywhere? And what made you assume you would have to be religious to be against the child porn industry?
I can't figure out where the vehemence you are displaying against me is coming from. Are you trying to make an argument for keeping it on Voat? Please explain your point to me, because right now it's looking pretty murky.
EDIT: After taking a quick look at your profile, I noticed you're a moderator of Islamhate. No wonder you went straight to calling me an Islamist. So today you moved from generalizing an entire religion, to advocating for pedophile rights. Good for you.
VieBleu ago
great rebuttals. It's exacty this kind of idiot that makes me wonder - why oh why in the hell be here at all. It's clearly a hostile environment and to top it off, I constantly hear this call for "gratitutde" which is hysterical, but just like how abusers act - be grateful for your abuse.
Shillfest2017 ago
I'm a grown adult, I could care less about some Islamophobic dude on Voat blabbering at me. What really bothers me about it is that I am responsible for my kids. It hurts me very much to think that a site that isn't in the farthest corners of the deep web is propagating child pornography.
Voat is a great site, and I'm here because it gives more freedom to be able to speak your mind. There is no limit to free speech, and there shouldn't be in any sense. Even old Tor1 here can come around and hate on Muslims, and that is their right. But there is a HUGE difference between freedom of speech and the posting of child porn. It should go without saying. That's why anyone arguing against removing child porn from any website, anywhere, ever, baffles and horrifies me.