He'll still get Chauvin'dMadWorld wrote: ↑Tue Nov 09, 2021 3:33 am https://files.catbox.moe/1x57d1.mp4
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I don't think so. Chauvin was overcharged, but he obviously fucked up kneeling on his neck for 8 minutes. There's just no excuse for that. This case screams self-defense against rioters burning down the city. Remember that the jury is from Kenosha. It only takes one juror to have a hung jury, but I think it stands a good chance of being unanimously not guilty, with the possible exception of a misdemeanor gun charge. If they actually came back with a homicide verdict, I think the judge would throw it out.
Have you worked in a field where you have to restrain people? Have you taken use of force training? Chauvin was completely within policy and completely within the law. Think about that. The dude was a known drug dealer hopped up on fentanyl who was built like a gorilla. He resisted every step of the way because he didn't want to go to jail. Chauvin wasn't pressing on his neck, you can see that in the video when his knee rose with Floyd's neck when he was moving it around.chrimony wrote: ↑Tue Nov 09, 2021 4:24 pmI don't think so. Chauvin was overcharged, but he obviously fucked up kneeling on his neck for 8 minutes. There's just no excuse for that. This case screams self-defense against rioters burning down the city. Remember that the jury is from Kenosha. It only takes one juror to have a hung jury, but I think it stands a good chance of being unanimously not guilty, with the possible exception of a misdemeanor gun charge. If they actually came back with a homicide verdict, I think the judge would throw it out.
What's crappie flop?antiliberalsociety wrote: ↑Tue Nov 09, 2021 7:22 pmHave you worked in a field where you have to restrain people? Have you taken use of force training? Chauvin was completely within policy and completely within the law. Think about that. The dude was a known drug dealer hopped up on fentanyl who was built like a gorilla. He resisted every step of the way because he didn't want to go to jail. Chauvin wasn't pressing on his neck, you can see that in the video when his knee rose with Floyd's neck when he was moving it around.chrimony wrote: ↑Tue Nov 09, 2021 4:24 pmI don't think so. Chauvin was overcharged, but he obviously fucked up kneeling on his neck for 8 minutes. There's just no excuse for that. This case screams self-defense against rioters burning down the city. Remember that the jury is from Kenosha. It only takes one juror to have a hung jury, but I think it stands a good chance of being unanimously not guilty, with the possible exception of a misdemeanor gun charge. If they actually came back with a homicide verdict, I think the judge would throw it out.
They called for the ambulance which means he's no longer just a prisoner, he's now a patient first. So medical care giver law comes into play. The reason he was using his knee on his neck wasn't to subdue him, he was already cuffed. He was bracing his neck so Floyd couldn't injure himself by doing the crappie flop. The "murder" lie is parroted so much that everyone believes it as truth.
Why are the biggest experts on the matter always people who have never done the job, gone through the training, and know nothing about it? Where were these experts for Tony Timpa?
Sorry, Minnesota term. A crappie is a fish (fishing is big here), and when you catch them they flop on the ground trying to swim back to the water.CognitiveDissident5 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 09, 2021 8:28 pmWhat's crappie flop?antiliberalsociety wrote: ↑Tue Nov 09, 2021 7:22 pmHave you worked in a field where you have to restrain people? Have you taken use of force training? Chauvin was completely within policy and completely within the law. Think about that. The dude was a known drug dealer hopped up on fentanyl who was built like a gorilla. He resisted every step of the way because he didn't want to go to jail. Chauvin wasn't pressing on his neck, you can see that in the video when his knee rose with Floyd's neck when he was moving it around.chrimony wrote: ↑Tue Nov 09, 2021 4:24 pm
I don't think so. Chauvin was overcharged, but he obviously fucked up kneeling on his neck for 8 minutes. There's just no excuse for that. This case screams self-defense against rioters burning down the city. Remember that the jury is from Kenosha. It only takes one juror to have a hung jury, but I think it stands a good chance of being unanimously not guilty, with the possible exception of a misdemeanor gun charge. If they actually came back with a homicide verdict, I think the judge would throw it out.
They called for the ambulance which means he's no longer just a prisoner, he's now a patient first. So medical care giver law comes into play. The reason he was using his knee on his neck wasn't to subdue him, he was already cuffed. He was bracing his neck so Floyd couldn't injure himself by doing the crappie flop. The "murder" lie is parroted so much that everyone believes it as truth.
Why are the biggest experts on the matter always people who have never done the job, gone through the training, and know nothing about it? Where were these experts for Tony Timpa?
No, have you?antiliberalsociety wrote: ↑Tue Nov 09, 2021 7:22 pm Have you worked in a field where you have to restrain people? Have you taken use of force training?
Can you show me the policy or law that allows an officer to kneel on the neck of an unresponsive individual for several minutes after he complained that he couldn't breathe, and was no longer resisting arrest? Have you ever heard of reckless endangerment?Chauvin was completely within policy and completely within the law.
Yes, he was resisting arrest. But at some point he stopped resisting. So what's the point of continuing to kneel on their neck?The dude was a known drug dealer hopped up on fentanyl who was built like a gorilla. He resisted every step of the way because he didn't want to go to jail.
He had a knee on his neck to restrain him. If it's enough force to restrain him, it's enough force to make it harder to breathe. He was also on his stomach, which makes it harder to breathe.Chauvin wasn't pressing on his neck, you can see that in the video when his knee rose with Floyd's neck when he was moving it around.
Lulz, you're actually claiming they were taking care of him by keeping him on his stomach and kneeling on his neck for over 8 minutes when he says he can't breathe?They called for the ambulance which means he's no longer just a prisoner, he's now a patient first. So medical care giver law comes into play. The reason he was using his knee on his neck wasn't to subdue him, he was already cuffed. He was bracing his neck so Floyd couldn't injure himself by doing the crappie flop. The "murder" lie is parroted so much that everyone believes it as truth.
He was white, so didn't get justice. Are you claiming they behaved appropriately in his case too, when they were cracking jokes as he died on his stomach like Floyd did? Or maybe when Troy Goode died by police after being hogtied and held on his stomach? Or how about Ramon Lopez? I don't need to be an expert to know when shit is fucked up.Why are the biggest experts on the matter always people who have never done the job, gone through the training, and know nothing about it? Where were these experts for Tony Timpa?
Yes, I have. Even EMR training.chrimony wrote: ↑Tue Nov 09, 2021 9:28 pmNo, have you?antiliberalsociety wrote: ↑Tue Nov 09, 2021 7:22 pm Have you worked in a field where you have to restrain people? Have you taken use of force training?
The problem with your question is that he was responsive. He wasn't kneeling on it, he was bracing with it. His own attorney said he did "exactly as he was trained". His airway was not obstructed, he would have to kneel on the front of the throat to close the airway. The ME report cited no abrasions on the neck to indicate asphyxiation. He died with 4x the lethal dose of fentanyl in his system.chrimony wrote:Can you show me the policy or law that allows an officer to kneel on the neck of an unresponsive individual for several minutes after he complained that he couldn't breathe, and was no longer resisting arrest? Have you ever heard of reckless endangerment?Chauvin was completely within policy and completely within the law.
I just told you, to brace it. Training dictates you keep your hands free seeing as he had a carload of his buddies pissed off about him being arrested. The ALWAYS claim they can't breathe, do you not recall the T-shirts they made with the formation of BLM? They're programmed to play victim as their jew leaders taught them to.chrimony wrote:Yes, he was resisting arrest. But at some point he stopped resisting. So what's the point of continuing to kneel on their neck?The dude was a known drug dealer hopped up on fentanyl who was built like a gorilla. He resisted every step of the way because he didn't want to go to jail.
He was on his side and I already told you it wasn't to restrain because he was already cuffed. He was in the rescue position which is per the EMR protocol.chrimony wrote:He had a knee on his neck to restrain him. If it's enough force to restrain him, it's enough force to make it harder to breathe. He was also on his stomach, which makes it harder to breathe.Chauvin wasn't pressing on his neck, you can see that in the video when his knee rose with Floyd's neck when he was moving it around.
This is where you start sounding like an NPC liberal. You admit to having no training, thus no experience in the matter, yet you act like what (((tv))) told you is the only side that needs to be told.chrimony wrote:Lulz, you're actually claiming they were taking care of him by keeping him on his stomach and kneeling on his neck for over 8 minutes when he says he can't breathe?They called for the ambulance which means he's no longer just a prisoner, he's now a patient first. So medical care giver law comes into play. The reason he was using his knee on his neck wasn't to subdue him, he was already cuffed. He was bracing his neck so Floyd couldn't injure himself by doing the crappie flop. The "murder" lie is parroted so much that everyone believes it as truth.
Difference is, that cop did violate the law by sitting on his back when waiting for an ambulance. That is a huge no-no in the medical field. He did asphyxiate Timpa by restricting his ability to breathe. He called for an ambulance which is why the cops were there in the first place. Instant medical. That guy wasn't on his side like Floyd was, he was on his stomach. He wasn't experiencing excited delirium like Floyd was. He didn't overdose on fentanyl. If that cop had used his knee on the side of Timpa's neck - as he would have been in the rescue position, Timpa might have lived.chrimony wrote:He was white, so didn't get justice. Are you claiming they behaved appropriately in his case too, when they were cracking jokes as he died on his stomach like Floyd did? Or maybe when Troy Goode died by police after being hogtied and held on his stomach? Or how about Ramon Lopez? I don't need to be an expert to know when shit is fucked up.Why are the biggest experts on the matter always people who have never done the job, gone through the training, and know nothing about it? Where were these experts for Tony Timpa?
He's restraining him with his knee. Which means he's applying pressure. Which means he's going to have a harder time breathing. And he's forcing him to remain with his chest pinned to the ground.antiliberalsociety wrote: ↑Tue Nov 09, 2021 9:53 pm The problem with your question is that he was responsive. He wasn't kneeling on it, he was bracing with it.
Lulz. what the fuck. Are you saying Chauvin's attorney said he did "exactly as he was trained"? And this is supposed to mean something?His own attorney said he did "exactly as he was trained".
No doubt the drugs contributed to his death. But if he's already having trouble breathing, then putting him on his stomach and kneeling on his neck are going to make it that much harder, even if it wouldn't normally strangle a person.His airway was not obstructed, he would have to kneel on the front of the throat to close the airway. The ME report cited no abrasions on the neck to indicate asphyxiation. He died with 4x the lethal dose of fentanyl in his system.
Is that why Officer Dickhead sat there with his hand in his pocket while he was killing the suspect?Training dictates you keep your hands free seeing as he had a carload of his buddies pissed off about him being arrested.
That doesn't mean you can just ignore the claim. And he shouldn't have been in that position for a prolonged period regardless.The ALWAYS claim they can't breathe, do you not recall the T-shirts they made with the formation of BLM? They're programmed to play victim as their jew leaders taught them to.
You're full of shit. If he was on his side at all, it's because he was struggling to lift his right side up. At 15:24, Concerned Officer says, "Roll him on the side?" And Chauvin responds, "No, he's staying put where I got him." And Concerned Officer responds, "I just worry about the delirium or whatever." And Chauvin responds, "That's why I bring him down on the stomach."He was on his side
Bullshit. He was resisting and struggling earlier even in cuffs, which is why they pulled him out of the car and put him down on the ground.I already told you it wasn't to restrain because he was already cuffed.
Lulz. Do you believe your own bullshit?He was in the rescue position which is per the EMR protocol.
This is where you act like a partisan, and repeat bullshit talking points that I should believe instead of my own eyes based on actual video.This is where you start sounding like an NPC liberal.
THEN WATCH THE FUCKING VIDEO and stop bullshitting. The whole fucking thing, sit through it at normal speed. At 16:22, Concerned Officer says, "I think he's passing out." FOUR MINUTES LATER, Chauvin finally removes his knee from his neck.Difference is, that cop did violate the law by sitting on his back when waiting for an ambulance.That is a huge no-no in the medical field.
I'm not even going to bother with you, if all you have is "lulz" and cognitive dissonance. He wasn't on his stomach, breathing wasn't the issue. The knee made no difference outside of keeping him from injuring himself. Your argument is emotionally based and bears no weight. Even your pic doesn't show his entire body. Keep REEEing for the nigger, though. Looks real good on here.chrimony wrote: ↑Wed Nov 10, 2021 1:47 amHe's restraining him with his knee. Which means he's applying pressure. Which means he's going to have a harder time breathing. And he's forcing him to remain with his chest pinned to the ground.antiliberalsociety wrote: ↑Tue Nov 09, 2021 9:53 pm The problem with your question is that he was responsive. He wasn't kneeling on it, he was bracing with it.
Lulz. what the fuck. Are you saying Chauvin's attorney said he did "exactly as he was trained"? And this is supposed to mean something?His own attorney said he did "exactly as he was trained".
No doubt the drugs contributed to his death. But if he's already having trouble breathing, then putting him on his stomach and kneeling on his neck are going to make it that much harder, even if it wouldn't normally strangle a person.His airway was not obstructed, he would have to kneel on the front of the throat to close the airway. The ME report cited no abrasions on the neck to indicate asphyxiation. He died with 4x the lethal dose of fentanyl in his system.
Is that why Officer Dickhead sat there with his hand in his pocket while he was killing the suspect?Training dictates you keep your hands free seeing as he had a carload of his buddies pissed off about him being arrested.
That doesn't mean you can just ignore the claim. And he shouldn't have been in that position for a prolonged period regardless.The ALWAYS claim they can't breathe, do you not recall the T-shirts they made with the formation of BLM? They're programmed to play victim as their jew leaders taught them to.
You're full of shit. If he was on his side at all, it's because he was struggling to lift his right side up. At 15:24, Concerned Officer says, "Roll him on the side?" And Chauvin responds, "No, he's staying put where I got him." And Concerned Officer responds, "I just worry about the delirium or whatever." And Chauvin responds, "That's why I bring him down on the stomach."He was on his side
Bullshit. He was resisting and struggling earlier even in cuffs, which is why they pulled him out of the car and put him down on the ground.I already told you it wasn't to restrain because he was already cuffed.
Lulz. Do you believe your own bullshit?He was in the rescue position which is per the EMR protocol.
This is where you act like a partisan, and repeat bullshit talking points that I should believe instead of my own eyes based on actual video.This is where you start sounding like an NPC liberal.
THEN WATCH THE FUCKING VIDEO and stop bullshitting. The whole fucking thing, sit through it at normal speed. At 16:22, Concerned Officer says, "I think he's passing out." FOUR MINUTES LATER, Chauvin finally removes his knee from his neck.Difference is, that cop did violate the law by sitting on his back when waiting for an ambulance.That is a huge no-no in the medical field.
"on his side", "rescue position", "responsive"