Jeffrey Epstein & Al Seckel : RESURRECTION |Potential Lead| Follow-Up on CDAN (plancktonne post/dig) the ILLUSIONIST friend, MINDSHIFT (LSJ) partner and alleged DEATH FAKER. ?ARE THEY STILL ALIVE? (pizzagate)

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This is a follow up on @plancktonne 's post : |Potential Lead| From CDAN: Today's Blind Items - Resurrection (pizzagate)

A convoluted story involving the "late" Jeffrey Epstein, Ghislaine Maxwell, her sister Isabel, Isabel's "late" husband, Al Seckel, who "died" mysteriously in 2015 (and allegedly was an expert in making people "look dead" whatever that means), Brock Pierce who is now a presidential candidate, Marc Collins-Rector and — Steve Bannon (one time Trump team member and now indicted for a charity scam). -CDAN

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/3989997

I have focussed this research on the first name mentioned that I didn't recognize: Al Seckel ; and the allegations of him, and the wealthy elite around him : faking their death.

While many agree with me, the latter is obviously not an easy thing to prove - and will undoubtedly invite more criticism, than the hard evidence linking this new NAME to the Island, Mindshift, Epstein, the Maxwell's and more. That said, we can add Al's weird expertise to the list of suspicious evidence (Ear, flight logs, island drone, coroner, missing video, etc) supporting theories that JE may not only have "not killed himself" but may even be still alive.

Timeline outlining the relationship between Jeffrey Epstein and Al Seckel (full unedited list here https://undeceive.weebly.com/ ) :

  • 2004: Seckel one of 163 members of Brockman's Edge group answering that year's question: "what's your law?" Seckel presents his two laws of visual perception. Other responders include Marvin Minsky, Freeman Dyson, Stephen Kosslyn, Jeffrey Epstein, Chris Anderson, Michael Shermer, Richard Dawkins, Ray Kurzweil, Lisa Randall, Craig Venter.
  • 2009 Sept 23: Seckel attends Clinton Global Initiative Awards in New York. Quincy Jones, who Seckel has befriended, is honored.
  • 2009 Sept: Ghislaine Maxwell served subpoena at Clinton Global Initiative Conference in New York in connection with Jeffrey Epstein investigation.
  • 2009:  Seckel visits billionaire Jeffrey Epstein in Florida. This is shortly after Epstein’s early release from jail for felony solicitation of prostitution with underage girls. Epstein’s consort, Ghislaine Maxwell, sister of Seckel’s wife Isabel Maxwell, allegedly helped procure underage girls for Epstein. (Seckel later denies any involvement in or knowledge of Epstein's activities with underage girls--see 5-19-11 entry.)
  • 2010 June 29: Ghislaine Maxwell refuses deposition summons in Epstein case, claiming her mother is “deathly ill” and she must go to Europe and does not plan on returning to U.S.
  • 2010 July 14:  Seckel and Maxwell have White House meeting with Michael Froman (then White House Deputy National Security Advisor for Economic Affairs, now U.S. Trade Representative). Meeting also includes Peter Prowitt, Benjamin Blumenthal, Don Weiss, Erik Hanson.
  • ​2010 July 16:  Seckel and Maxwell file complaint against Brodbeck, owner of 20404 Little Rock Way, Malibu house they were renting and got evicted from.
  • 2010 Oct:  Seckel interview ("Jeffrey Epstein Talks Perception with Al Seckel") is lead item on Epstein’s science website.  Self-promotional claims here are similar to his original Wikipedia entry. Says he got funding for “massive interactive website on thinking skills” with friend Caprice Young (then with Milken Institute).  Claims “Tommy” Gold was his Cornell advisor, and at Caltech he was in Feynman’s “very close inner circle” with Michael Douglas and one other person, spending hours with him “almost every other day.”  Claims to be very close to Murray Gell-Mann, and friends with “Shelly” (Sheldon) Glashow, Lisa Randall, Sean Carroll, and Jimmy Wales.
  • 2010 Oct 26:  Former Caltech science writer Robert Finn, on Twitter, recommends his “friend” Seckel’s interview on Epstein’s science website. Caltech physicist Sean Carroll also recommends it on Twitter (though Carroll's wife Jennifer Ouellette later tells McIver she "loathed" Seckel and found him a "pompous crashing bore"--a "collector" of people he found "useful or prestigious" who tried--unsuccessfully--to "acquire" her husband). Joseph Kirschvink recommends it on his Caltech website.
  • ​2010 Nov 1: In post to math puzzle website, Seckel claims he is working with Epstein on his science website jeffreyepsteinscience.com and his philanthropy website jeffreyepstein.com.
  • 2010 Nov 6:  Seckel arranges "Mindshift" conference, funded and hosted by Epstein, to be held in "early January on the Island of St. Thomas and Jeffrey Epstein's private island in the Caribbean, Little St. James." Participants: Murray Gell-Mann, Christof Koch, Catherine Mohr, Gerald Sussman, Frances Arnold, Leonard Mlodinow, Paul Kirkaas, Brock Pierce, Ron Reisman, Pablos Holman, Dan Dubno, Reichart Von Wolfsheild. (Photo of conference attendees posted 2-4-11 on Liz Seckel Facebook page.)
  • 2010 Nov: Epstein’s interview of Seckel edited; adds mention of his not graduating from Cornell. “‘Did you graduate from Cornell?’ ‘No, I ended up not finishing the requirements, although I did certainly more than enough course-work, but more to my own requirements and interests, rather than Cornell’s requirements…’ ”
  • 2010 Dec: Epstein's science website features articles about Martin Gardner, Robert Lang, and Daniel Kraft.
  • 2010 Dec 22:  Living Aquatic Art Design files complaint against Seckel.
  • 2011: Leonard Mlodinow mentions his personal association with Seckel in his book War of the Worldviews, citing Seckel on auditory illusions.
  • ​2011 Jan: Mindshift conference organized by Seckel held at Epstein's Virgin Islands estate. Isabel Maxwell accompanies Seckel.
  • 2011 Jan: Seckel is listed as one of the scientists and researchers funded by Epstein on Epstein’s website (others include Murray Gell-Mann, Lawrence Krauss, Marvin Nowak, Stephen Kosslyn, David Deutsch, Marvin Minsky, Lee Smolin).  Webpage deleted soon after.
  • 2011 March:  Epstein interview of Seckel disappears from Epstein’s science website.  (Some months later, entire content of website is removed.)
  • 2011 May 19: In signed "Declaration," Seckel denies any involvement with or knowledge of Jeffrey Epstein's sexual activities with underage girls. Seckel said he learned a subpoena had been issued to depose him in connection with Epstein, and this declaration was his response.
  • 2012 March 8:  Epstein Foundation responds by e-mail to McIver saying they are still funding Seckel on a “case by case basis.”
  • 2016 Oct: Book about Jeffrey Epstein, Filthy Rich, by best-selling author James Patterson and John Connolly with Tim Malloy, published. Includes brief chapter about Seckel, describing Seckel's 2010 Mindshift conference held at Epstein's Virgin Islands estate, using information from Oppenheimer's 2015 article.
  • 2019 Sept 6: Technology writer and critic Evgeny Morozov posts on Twitter: "Still surprised by how little attention the Epstein-chasing media have paid to Al Seckel - a top-notch charlatan, a one-time TED talker, a member of the Edge community, an ex-husband of Ghislaine Maxwell's sister, and a co-organizer (with Epstein) of the Mindshift conference."
  • 2019 Sept 10: Biologist PZ Myers writes about Seckel in his Pharyngula blog: "Ugh, Al Seckel's name floats to the top again." Calls him "self-serving fraud who slithered his way into the skeptic community, taking advantage of their gullibility of any phony who knew the right science buzzwords." Notes his association with Brockman and Epstein. "Viewed with hindsight, knowing how unsavory Epstein was, Seckel's history looks even more horrible now... [O]ne of Seckel's tools to suppress anyone who might question his credentials...was the frequent use of lawsuits and threats of lawsuits. [P]eople were afraid to talk about his dubious claims because he'd drop a lawsuit on you if you didn't reward him with honors for his nonexistent skills."
  • 2019 Sept 18: Retired physics prof. and science educator Mano Singham writes blog post "How to con scientists and skeptics" about Seckel. Notes that, like Epstein, he pretended to scientific and intellectual authority he did not possess, and described his success as due to leveraging his initial friendship with scientists--notably Feynman and Gell-Mann--into luring more and more elite scientists and "skeptics" into his orbit. They assumed he was trustworthy and a brilliant scientist because of the prestigious names he had already acquired in his network.
  • 2019 Sept 19: Kim Masters writes Hollywood Reporter article about Brock Pierce, cryptocurrency entrepreneur allegedly involved in the past with sexually abusive behavior. Describes his attendance at 2011 Mindshift conference arranged by Seckel and held on Epstein's island and nearby St. Thomas (see Nov 6, 2010 entry). Includes comments by Lawrence Bender on Seckel's flair for connecting people, and notes that his death has never been proved, with some suspecting it was faked.

undeceive - https://archive.is/1UiFN

SAUCE for more evidence continued in the comments:

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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ECMo6_uX4AE4Oj4.jpg

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LOTS MORE HERE : https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1162818160158027777.html

https://archive.org/details/AlSeckel_2004

lippard.blogspot - https://archive.is/TNpcH

ted - https://archive.is/lEmON and http://web.archive.org/web/20200112053607/https://www.ted.com/talks/al_seckel_visual_illusions_that_show_how_we_mis_think

legacy - https://archive.is/7bAsI

https://archive.vn/9WuwJ#selection-747.1-747.68

https://web.archive.org/web/20101210234143/http:/www.jeffreyepsteinscience.com/2010/10/jeffrey-epstein-talks-perception-with-al-seckel/

https://web.archive.org/web/20080730132728/http://www.illusionworks.com/

https://web.archive.org/web/20180109062621/http://www.illusionworks.com/funny-pictures.html

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ORDOTEMPLIINTERNETIS ago

Al Seckel exposed

"I believe that we are rapidly transitioning from an Age of Information to an Age of Misinformation, and in many cases, outright disinformation." -- Al Seckel, in an interview published on Jeffrey Epstein's website, "Jeffrey Epstein Talks Perception with Al Seckel"

Mark Oppenheimer's long-awaited exposé on Al Seckel, "The Illusionist," ( https://archive.is/jqJB3 ) has now been published and I urge all skeptics to read it. Seckel, the former head of the Southern California Skeptics and a CSICOP Scientific and Technical Consultant who was listed as a "physicist" in every issue of the Skeptical Inquirer from vol. 11, no. 2 (Winter 1987-88) to vol. 15, no. 2 (Winter 1991) despite having no degree in physics, has long been known among skeptical insiders as a person who was misrepresenting himself and taking advantage of others. Most have remained silent over fear of litigation, which Seckel has engaged in successfully in the past. ...

Update 22 September 2015--an obituary has been published for Al Seckel, stating that he died in France on an unspecified date earlier this year, but there are as yet no online French death records nor French news stories reporting his death. The obituary largely mirrors content put up on alseckel.net, a domain that was registered on September 18 by a user using Perfect Privacy LLC (domaindiscreet.com) to hide their information. (That in itself is not suspicious, it is generally a good practice for individuals who own domain names to protect their privacy with such mechanisms and I do it myself.)

Update 24 September 2015: French police, via the U.S. consulate, confirmed the death of Al Seckel on July 1, 2015. His body was found at the bottom of a cliff in the village of Saint-Cirq-Lapopie.

https://archive.is/TNpcH#selection-279.0-279.18

ORDOTEMPLIINTERNETIS ago

"NAME DROPPY" THE ILLUSIONIST

Al Seckel has left the country. But the world’s greatest collector of optical illusions left some troubles behind.

By Mark Oppenheimer | July 20, 2015 •

For a 30-year stretch beginning in the early 1980s, one of Los Angeles County’s great hosts was a man called Al Seckel. His parties were not lavish or wild. There was no skinny-dipping, no drugs. There were no ice sculptures, no celebrity caterers, no peacocks strutting about the grounds. There weren’t even grounds, really. From the time he moved to L.A. in 1981 until he left for France about five years ago, Seckel held court in a series of apartments and rental homes, often in the hills of Pasadena and La Cañada Flintridge, save for a stint or two in Malibu. Sometimes his parties were arranged around a main event—Fourth of July fireworks, a magic show. Other times he issued instructions, like “Bring the most interesting person you’ve ever met,” or “Bring a copy of the book that you’ve most enjoyed.” Sometimes Seckel had a wife to co-host with him, other times not. One wife had been an It Girl in London during the 1980s; another, his current wife, had been a co-founder of the early web search engine Magellan.

As in wives, so in party guests: Seckel’s unique genius was his catholicity of taste. Milling around his parties were not only the B- and C-list celebrities requisite in L.A. but Nobel Prize-winning physicists, MacArthur “genius prize” winners, tech entrepreneurs, oddball futurists, and magicians. There were actors, musicians, and fringe entertainment types, plus academics associated with nearby Caltech and the NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory. Catherine Mohr, a noted innovator in surgical robotics and a longtime friend of Seckel’s, met the Nobel laureates Murray Gell-Mann and Francis Crick at Seckel’s parties. “He loves bringing together people of interesting backgrounds and seeing the chemistry of them,” Mohr told me.

John Edwards, a retired Air Force engineer who danced in two Michael Jackson videos and won $100,000 on a short-lived ABC show called Dance Machine, first met Seckel through a Southern California atheists’ group, and for a time the two were close friends. Edwards remembers meeting, at Seckel’s parties, Tesla and SpaceX founder Elon Musk, drone pioneer Paul MacCready, magician and MacArthur Fellow James “Amazing” Randi, and Dudley Moore. “He would bring everyone together the way Hearst would bring people to his castle,” Edwards said. One of the biggest names he met through Seckel was physicist Richard Feynman. Edwards had dinner with Feynman at Seckel’s house, met the two of them for lunch at Caltech, and even went camping with them.

Seckel’s allure was partly his background: People around him understood that he had ties to Caltech, and that at Cornell he had been a teaching assistant in Carl Sagan’s class. But his pedigree did not fully explain his allure, his Death Star tractor-beam pull. I met Seckel once, in 2000, when I interviewed him for a piece on atheist history. He greeted me at the door of the house he was renting in La Cañada, gathered me inside with his arm over my shoulder, and, before I could say a word, guided me toward a painting of an optical illusion, the appearance of which shifted as I approached. He told me that that he was one of the world’s great collectors of optical illusions, that he’d earned a great deal of money in rare books, and that he’d been helping a promising young pop star get a good manager. He was gregarious and loquacious and name-droppy. Seckel gave me the sense that his life was a grand narrative in which I was privileged to have a walk-on part.

https://archive.is/jqJB3#selection-144.1-289.970

ORDOTEMPLIINTERNETIS ago

Seckel was a member of the Edge Foundation, an international think tank.

Seckel had been a member of the American Academy of Achievement.

Seckel was one of the organizers and contributors to the Gathering for Martin Gardner conference.

He has directed the X Prize Foundation (Ocean) and has served on the Board of the Pete Conrad Foundation.

https://alchetron.com/Al-Seckel

XPRIZE is a non-profit organization that designs and hosts public competitions intended to encourage technological development to benefit humanity. Their Board of Trustees include James Cameron, Larry Page, Arianna Huffington, and Ratan Tata among others.Wikipedia

ORDOTEMPLIINTERNETIS ago

Gallery XPrize: A Radical Benefit to Humanity May 16th, 2010

https://drewaltizer.com/event/12299-xprize-a-radical-benefit-to-humanity/gallery/5b03bd3ed559307aa36da29d

Maxwell and Robin Williams!?