nwguy ago

just no.. these were lightning strikes and assholes that throw out lit cigarettes

allahead ago

Supposedly there were many thousand unusual lightening strikes a few weeks ago. Source on the cigarettes or is that speculation? There is a lot of reports of these being coordinated arson by antifa.

A space based high power infrared laser is not remotely out of the realm of what's possible these days.

RexYehudi ago

The red beam is much easier to see when you add a little compression and contrast..

NakedWarrior ago

Many months ago I was perusing /pol and there was a thread about the fires last year in Paradise, CA. Someone had researched a theory and uploaded all the info. I wish I would've saved it now. Basically, Trump was doing something to piss of Israel, so Israel (who had launched a satellite at some point with a DEW) threatened to use it on the US if Trump didn't back down or stop what he was doing. Trump didn't, so they used it on Paradise, CA. You may recall there were several videos/photos of what looked like DEW taken. You may also recall that the fires there were very weird, burning house but leaving the trees untouched and not even scorched. Burning 1/2 a house or business in a straight line, like one might think a laser would do, but not an actual brush fire, etc. Trump went to visit Paradise, Ca and OP said in his theory that Trump looked very angry that day, more so than normal. Trump knew Israel would continue to use this weapon against us. Enter Russia and their new secret sub the Losharik. This sub had a weapon that could destroy a satellite, apparently we did not have the same capability on any of our ships at the time. Russia agreed to take out the satellite, knowing that it would be used against them someday as well. They destroyed the satellite but not before the DEW was able to be used on the sub. If you look up Losharik, you will see that it caught fire and all aboard were killed (I believe on its maiden voyage and what it was doing is still unknown). OP had all the evidence nicely laid out with photos, etc. I don't do it justice, but it's just a theory, so take it for what you may.

beefartist ago

Beam weapons are likely real...satellites are on balloons and probably can't get from Israel to here.

Empire_of_the_mind ago

There's absolutely zero reason I need to watch a 20 minute video

allahead ago

2:42 best view.

Usernamenameuser ago

Look at all this nothing! Holy shit! Nothing is there!

InfiniteWaves ago

I guess my brightness does not go high enough

allahead ago

You can see the beam relatively clearly at 2:42.

GasnSniff ago

so annoying that 2:42 is the only time you can see it

allahead ago

You can see it later when he changes spectrum as a grayish line too.

Here a goat screenshotted all of the best images.

PatrickFullen ago

Yeah what an I missing here? He's going nuts in the video and everything he's pointing at stays black.

NakedWarrior ago

Same, turned my brightness up as high as possible and still saw nothing.

Day_of_the_rope ago

" Directed Energy Weapon " .... lightning

Varlet ago

Lightning forks as it moves between the most conductive particles floating in the air. That infrared is a straight line.

Day_of_the_rope ago

Well it is verified that lightning started the fires. So beam or no, it was lightning.

Nosferatjew ago

Let's say that this is a "DEW", because whatever, I doubt it could be coming from a satellite. Unless the satellite is in geosynchronous orbit over that area of Oregon, which it wouldn't be, because all geosynchronous satellites are positioned above the equator, the origin of the beam, and thus the angle of the beam would be constantly changing as the satellite orbitted the Earth.

So, if this is indeed a "DEW" (I hate this acronym), then it would have to be either ground based, or on a stationary aircraft, such as a helicopter. But, to produce an infrared beam of this intensity, and capable of reaching a target hundreds of miles away, it would need a power source that no helicopter on Earth could possibly be equipped with.

So, IF this is a "DEW" (cringe), then I think it only makes sense that it would be ground based.

beefartist ago

There are too many variables for us to be likely to figure it out. My guess would be some kind of ground based HAARP type thing shoots the beam and it gets bounced/guided from a high flying plane or balloon

greydragon ago

Funny thing is I was going to qualify my initial answer with "assuming we are not on a flat Earth" because of the crazies. I finally said, "Fuck it." and took it out.

beefartist ago

That's a very big, very silly assumption. What is your elevator pitch for a curved earth? (Don't mention planes or light houses or extreme long distance shooting, because non of those would work)

greydragon ago

It's from Oregon to mid-California, ya daft bastard. Get a tennis ball or whatever ... pause.

Are you a flat-Earther? Let's clarify each of our positions.

allahead ago

GPS sats are geosync and they're not all above the equator.

un1ty ago

because all geosynchronous satellites are positioned above the equator

That's just not true - you're thinking of "geostationary" not "geosynch".

Nosferatjew ago

Hm.. perhaps.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geostationary_orbit

A geostationary orbit, also referred to as a geosynchronous equatorial orbit (GEO), is a circular geosynchronous orbit 35,786 kilometres (22,236 miles) above Earth's equator and following the direction of Earth's rotation.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geosynchronous_orbit

A geosynchronous orbit (sometimes abbreviated GSO) is an Earth-centered orbit with an orbital period that matches Earth's rotation on its axis, 23 hours, 56 minutes, and 4 seconds (one sidereal day). The synchronization of rotation and orbital period means that, for an observer on Earth's surface, an object in geosynchronous orbit returns to exactly the same position in the sky after a period of one sidereal day. Over the course of a day, the object's position in the sky may remain still or trace out a path, typically in a figure-8 form, whose precise characteristics depend on the orbit's inclination and eccentricity.

A special case of geosynchronous orbit is the geostationary orbit, which is a circular geosynchronous orbit in Earth's equatorial plane. A satellite in a geostationary orbit remains in the same position in the sky to observers on the surface. Popularly or loosely, the term geosynchronous may be used interchangeably with geostationary.

Communications satellites are often given geostationary or close to geostationary orbits so that the satellite antennas that communicate with them do not have to move, but can be pointed permanently at the fixed location in the sky where the satellite appears.

Seems that for the potential satellite in question to remain in the same spot above Oregon for the entire duration of the beaming, it would need to be geostationary. It also appears however, that this may only be possible when the satellite is positioned directly over the equator. Maybe I'm not reading all this stuff correctly, but it sounds like geosynchronous satellites that are not positioned over the equator will move some throughout the course of the day, which would cause the angle of the beam as seen in the animation to change some over time.

Am I doing this right?

greydragon ago

So, IF this is a "DEW" (cringe), then I think it only makes sense that it would be ground based.

And if ground based, the curvature of the Earth would not allow it to go that far.

djaeveloplyse ago

The idea is that they use the upper atmosphere as a mirror. At the right wavelength, it is theoretically possible.

greydragon ago

Could you get something to bounce? Yes. Are you saying one can get a death beam to bounce perfectly down to the same spot consistently?!

I want an answer, if you don't mind.

djaeveloplyse ago

I'm ashamed to admit it, but I've done very little experimentation with massive microwave death beams, so I don't really know if the theoretical translates to the realistic in this case. Apparently some pretty smart dudes in the 80s thought it could be done, and the military did build a base in Alaska that seems to just be a massive field of radio transmitters. Here's a random site searching for "harp death beam" on duckduckgo: http://www.viewzone.com/haarp11.html Here's the supposed original inventor's patent: https://patents.google.com/patent/US4686605A/en Take all of that for what you will.

greydragon ago

Thanks! Now my volcano death base will be completed soon. Mmm, one ... million ... dollars! Muhahahhaha.

Nosferatjew ago

Very true. However, can an infrared beam be bounced (refracted) off the ionosphere similar to radio waves?

beefartist ago

Radio waves may bounce but don't really get targeted I would think

greydragon ago

Infra-red is very low wavelength, and so I doubt it. Radio waves are very high wavelength and can bounce.

Look at the first chart on this site. The chart is a HUGE extreme even though it is compact: Link

bman0321 ago

No.

892012518HEROS ago

They can rev up a hurricane from CAT 1 to CAT 5 in 36 hours and steer it by heating the water in front of it in the direction they want it to go

B3bomber ago

That's not how you steer a hurricane... doing that requires high pressure zones roughly as wide as said hurricane (this easily can be 1,000 miles). Hurricanes are simply not attracted to any particular water temperature, they just tend to form over warm water.

MysticMa ago

Surface temp (warm water)feeds a tropical disturbance. Hurricanes will move wherever the barometric pressure is the lowest. Highs & troughs sheer it, not move the hurricane.

B3bomber ago

For less intelligent: H pressure on right, H pressure on left, hurricane shoots up middle.

MysticMa ago

or stall, veer & steer clear where black's on a map... :)

joelwinsagain ago

Do convection currents not create a difference in air pressure?

B3bomber ago

How to explain to an ant the comprehension of a zone of pressure causing global air movement in a specific direction that happens to be ~2,000 miles wide when both objects involved are air pressure systems are of similar magnitudes on a spinning body which induces its own specific direction...

You know what, get out a trash bag that hasn't been expanded yet and open the part that is open then blow into that enclosed space. For all intents and purposes, it will go one direction and inflate the bag.

blumen4alles ago

Hadn't seen that guy in a while.

veteran88 ago

Who shot it?

... Which Jews shot it?

The ones pretending to be American or the ones pretending to work with chinks?

Innerbloom ago

They're satanists Jews eat latkas and wear little hats saying Shabat shalom

RumpRangerRick ago

I am more retarded now, for having seen this.

allahead ago

Thanks. Do you happen to have that data 4chan/pol put together about the Paradise, CA fires a few years ago?

GasnSniff ago

maybe?....let me see...only replying cause I don't want you to think I left you in the dust.

RumpRangerRick ago

All I see is gender reveal fireworks being set off.

GasnSniff ago

that's what happens when you look at life through a faggots asshole.

RumpRangerRick ago

... or maybe detecting energy weapon use is proportional to the time spent in Mom's basement ?

GasnSniff ago

what if I told you I specialize in DEWs professionally?

RumpRangerRick ago

Good for you !

truf_tales ago

why aren't there any videos of the 1000s of satellites orbiting the earth?

beefartist ago

I smell a rhetorical question :)

wanderingblade ago

I honestly don't know what to make of that issue. I don't see how satellites can even work, I don't think gravity is how they describe it, there is just a downward force. Objects aren't attracted to each other, there is no proof of gravity

beefartist ago

I think it is more about levels of buoyancy or density, not so much a gravitational force

Unchosen1 ago

2 points:

  1. Satellites are constantly "falling" they aren't floating or held up. They are positioned at a certain height so due to the curve of the earth they continue to stay at the same relative height. It's like one of those coin race machines where the coin goes around and around the funnel. Eventually all satellites fall to earth.

  2. Gravity is very weak. Look at how easily you can you can jump off the ground. Your legs are more powerful than the gravitational force of the entire earth. Perhaps it's that gravity isn't intuitive to you?

beefartist ago

Point number 2 sounds reasonable...point number 1? If you believe the earth is curved you haven't taken much time to think about it, let alone perform any number of simple experiments to prove otherwise. Probably should stop being a condescending cunt about it until you do

Elcycs ago

I've personally performed the simple experiment of sailing East until I got back to where I started. Unless the stars we use to navigate rotated just for me and no one else noticed we're on a sphere.

beefartist ago

That still doesn't prove the earth is a globe nor that it is spinning

Elcycs ago

Yeah, it does.

beefartist ago

You watch your tone or I will have you keelhauled when we cross the equator.

Unchosen1 ago

Tell me what experiments I should perform then? I'm yet to see a flat earth model that accounts for the seasons and night & day at the same time, which the globe model can do easily.

beefartist ago

I don't think you have looked into it at all then...I am not doing the work for you but at the end of the day it doesn't make a difference in your daily life...unless you knowyou try to fly a plane or something.

Unchosen1 ago

I have looked into it. I'm saying that despite my best efforts I haven't found one. If it exists I would very much like to see it, but I can't find it. I can find models that explain the seasons and models that explain day and night - but not at the same time.

I've flown on planes to destinations all around the world, experiencing travel time, changes in time of day and seasons in a way that is consistent with the globe model.

beefartist ago

How hard did the plane have to constantly bank (wrong word)to keep from pointing into the sky and stalling out? You aren't going to be able to comprehend or model it all ...that is a lie of modernity but you can figure out what it ISN'T pretty easily. Dave Weiss probably has a model that demonstrates the movements of the sun...

truf_tales ago

www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkQaHLtCCoI

@wanderingblade

Unchosen1 ago

No thanks.

truf_tales ago

www.youtube.com/watch?v=CiR8e8lsHs0

www.youtube.com/watch?v=-V-ZfRXReKM

www.youtube.com/watch?v=B70e7pN1YZI

wanderingblade ago

That wasn't me commenting above I'll check those out

bosunmoon ago

elon musks sky gangbang was visible in the first stage, now it's not. They're only half as high as a regular satellite.

beefartist ago

If you believe Elon Musk (gangbang WTF?!) you are a big part of the problem

Elcycs ago

If you're away from the city, you can see them any night. Just look up for a while.

beefartist ago

You can see lights in the sky

Boris ago

When looking for satellites, consider the position of the sun. Satellites reflect the sun.

Elcycs ago

Right. Halfway between sunrise and sunset probably isn't the best time.

allahead ago

I don't know that there aren't, but this post isn't about flat Earth.