Help! Looking for sources for or against Japanese war crimes during WWII

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Help! Looking for sources for or against Japanese war crimes during WWII

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Anyone with internet access can find out Germany committed not only fewer war crimes than they are accused of but fewer than the "righteous" allies, however I'm having a tougher time doing so about Japanese war crimes. I believe this is because I don't speak Japanese and because I'm American so there is more of a stigma against WWII Japan than there is Germany amongst Americans interested in history (bolsheviks and zionists crying about Nazis aren't really interested in history). So if anyone has info and sources that can give us a better understanding of WWII Japan I'd appreciate it. I'll give some information that I know.

FDR gave an ultimatum known as the Hull note to Japan thus causing Pearl Harbor, without it Japan would not have attacked.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hull_note

Many Asians supported the Japanese, just as Europeans supported the Germans. In areas not in an active war zone the Japanese improved quality of life.
https://www.jstor.org/stable/2122408
https://www.e-ir.info/2019/03/01/the-un ... of-taiwan/
You can basically look up any southern Asian country during WWII Japanese administration and you'll get "it was good" in gay western historian speak. I don't have an all encompassing source for it and I don't feel like linking pozed sources repeatedly.

The Japanese had propaganda similar to the Germans showing brotherhood, except this time amongst Asians.
https://qz.com/india/1599799/japans-wor ... -in-india/
Supposedly Japan offered aid to Bengal during it's famine but the British refused to let that happen, can't find a source though.

Truman nuked Japan, including Nagasaki it's most Christian city, after it surrendered and against the advice of his generals.
https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2 ... omic-bombs
https://history.state.gov/historicaldoc ... 45v06/d361
https://www.cia.gov › staticPDF
Memoranda for the President: Japanese Feelers - CIA

Robert Taft condemned Japanese-American internment camps during WW2, and the Nuremberg trials after.

I'd be interested in sources on Japanese treatment of Chinese and Phillipino civilians and American POWs. The former I'm guessing is exaggerated and the latter was unfortunate but expected for soldiers. That said sources proving me right or wrong are welcome.
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I tried delving into this on Ruqqus, and found very few sources. There was one Asian NatSoc who tried explaining the war between Japan and China but he was really hard to follow, he blamed imperial Japan for serving the communists and claimed some sort of rebel fighters in China. No sources were ever given.

It's suspicious that there are so few sources. When you watch documentaries, you're at the mercy of the story teller being honest. You know they're getting paid, you know it's rehearsed, so good luck fact checking eyewitness testimony. It's the same amount of credibility as the Holocaust ™ .

I've never even seen a recommended book on it.
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antiliberalsociety wrote: Wed Dec 15, 2021 11:28 am I tried delving into this on Ruqqus, and found very few sources. There was one Asian NatSoc who tried explaining the war between Japan and China but he was really hard to follow, he blamed imperial Japan for serving the communists and claimed some sort of rebel fighters in China. No sources were ever given.

It's suspicious that there are so few sources. When you watch documentaries, you're at the mercy of the story teller being honest. You know they're getting paid, you know it's rehearsed, so good luck fact checking eyewitness testimony. It's the same amount of credibility as the Holocaust ™ .

I've never even seen a recommended book on it.
Maybe his argument was because Japan was fighting and weakening the nationalists they strengthened the Chinese communists? As the Japanese certainly did not directly help the communists.

Indeed, additionally most sources are from Japan's opponents, so there will no doubt be some bias at best. At worst you get a forged picture of Japanese soldiers bayonetting a baby that everyone thinks is real even when it's proven fake. https://www.cogitatiopress.com/mediaand ... le/view/74
Forging pictures being a common theme among the allies.

Neither have I but I imagine most books on this subject won't be in English.
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Surgeon General Shiro Ishii
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Unit 731 (Japanese: 731部隊 Hepburn: Nana-san-ichi Butai) was a covert biological and chemical warfare research and development unit of the Imperial Japanese Army that undertook lethal human experimentation during the Second Sino-Japanese War (1937–1945) of World War II. It was responsible for some of the most notorious war crimes carried out by Imperial Japan. Unit 731 was based at the Pingfang district of Harbin, the largest city in the Japanese puppet state of Manchukuo (now Northeast China).
A litany of examples of what they mean by 'lethal human experimentation' and notorious war crimes. https://www.perdurabo10.net/shiro-ishii.html
Fauci probably keeps a poster of SG Shiro Ishii in some remote lab /s

Just when I'm thinking I was taking a break from the media fray, the ranting neocon warpig headlines, I run across this statement in regards to Unit 731:
One of the main reasons the U.S. never pursued action against the Japanese—even though there were reports of U.S. Prisoners of War included in the experiments—was detailed in a declassified U.S. military counterintelligence file, which revealed that the U.S. struck an immunity deal with the Japanese that gave the U.S. reports on human experimentation, in case it ever pursues biological warfare against Russia.
“for the first time … clear evidence that American military intelligence officers maneuvered to suppress reports indicating U.S. prisoners of war in Manchuria were the victims of grotesque biological warfare experiments. Their unwillingness to pursue the allegations apparently stemmed from a secret deal granting the Japanese immunity from prosecution in exchange for tissue samples and reports on human experimentation that might help give the U.S. a germ warfare advantage over the Russians.”
https://thefreethoughtproject.com/unit- ... m-history/
https://ahrp.org/scholarly-analyses-con ... e-amnesia/
Faustian Bargain struck between U.S. government and Japan’s criminal scientists
The consensus of most scholars and those familiar with the evidence is that the Americans never got much out of the data-for-immunity deal; Ishii and his cohorts got the far better part of the deal. Indeed, as Professor Sheldon Harris stated in a 1999 address in Tokyo:

“The result of this bargain in the long run has been catastrophic. War criminals, free to resume their pre-war careers, dominated Japanese medicine and scientific research for a generation. These killers of innocent humans rose to be Presidents of Universities, Deans of Medical Schools, outstanding research professors whose scholarly research attracted world attention and praise in the scientific community.

Many of the graduates of Unit 731 and the other Units controlled the Ministry of Health and its agencies such as the National Institute of Health (NIH). Former members of Unit 731 dominated the Board of The Japan Medical Society (the JMA) for many years. Other war criminals, such as Naito Ryoichi and Kitano Masaji, formed important pharmaceutical companies. The Green Cross Company, headed by Naito is perhaps the most important of these companies.

The traditions and moral outlook of the men who served in the bw and cw Units continued even beyond the first post-war generation of doctors and scientists. Involuntary human experiments continued to be standard procedure for all too many researchers. Some of the studies were sponsored by the National Institute of Health. Others, were conducted under different agencies concerned with the problems encountered by the Hiroshima survivors. Still others used humans without their knowledge to test unproven vaccines and drugs.” ( Japanese Medical Atrocities in WWII: Unit 731 Was Not An Isolated Aberration, 1999)

Numerous Unit 731 documents were wiped away from American archives until passage of the Japanese Imperial Government Disclosure Act of 2000. The Willoughby memoranda can be found in the U.S. National Archives. They are posted by Christopher Reed (The U.S. and the Japanese Mengele: Payoffs and Amnesty for Unit 731, in Asia-Pacific Journal: Japan Focus, 2006) Read more…National Archives. Interagency Working Group. Japanese War Crimes documents)
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