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Pilot deaths jumped 1,700% - Turns out its incomplete information

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2021 7:31 am
by antiliberalsociety
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I found a complete list after some effort that recorded all deaths.

https://www.rnpa.org/memoriam/flown-west

Re: Pilot deaths jumped 1,700% since mandating the vax

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2021 4:27 pm
by shewhomustbeobeyed
Do you have the source for those statistics?

Re: Pilot deaths jumped 1,700% since mandating the vax

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2021 5:18 pm
by doginventer
shewhomustbeobeyed wrote: Tue Dec 14, 2021 4:27 pm Do you have the source for those statistics?
Numbers are from a magazine that is saying these numbers only reference reports from their membership.

Comment section here can’t find substantiation:

Why are so many airline pilots dying… – CITIZEN FREE PRESS
https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/w ... ots-dying/

Airline Pilot Magazine ALPA for December shows one pilot died in 2019, six in 2020, and 111 in the first nine months of 2021. So many coincidences, if we could only find the cause…



Update — The editor of the magazine responded:



“We report the losses in our magazine as we receive information from the families. The information in one magazine edition does not provide a complete report of the total losses for each of the listed years.”

Re: Pilot deaths jumped 1,700% since mandating the vax

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2021 5:37 pm
by Deleted User 2149
Surely an unfortunate coincidence

Re: Pilot deaths jumped 1,700% since mandating the vax

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2021 10:05 pm
by shewhomustbeobeyed
Thanks @doginventer. I wonder if other professional publications and/or orginizations keep tabs. I know some unions used to.

Re: Pilot deaths jumped 1,700% since mandating the vax

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2021 10:38 pm
by antiliberalsociety
shewhomustbeobeyed wrote: Tue Dec 14, 2021 4:27 pm Do you have the source for those statistics?
Read the bottom?

Re: Pilot deaths jumped 1,700% since mandating the vax

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2021 10:42 pm
by shewhomustbeobeyed
antiliberalsociety wrote: Tue Dec 14, 2021 10:38 pm Read the bottom?
The bottom link in the picture is incomplete. Just thought you might have it.

Re: Pilot deaths jumped 1,700% since mandating the vax

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2021 11:06 pm
by doginventer
shewhomustbeobeyed wrote: Tue Dec 14, 2021 10:42 pm
antiliberalsociety wrote: Tue Dec 14, 2021 10:38 pm Read the bottom?
The bottom link in the picture is incomplete. Just thought you might have it.
Yes, I couldn’t find anything relevant there:
Air Line Pilot Magazine - ALPA
https://www.alpa.org/news-and-events/ai ... t-magazine

But there do seem to be others saying that these stats are not representative of the overall numbers - see here (have to scroll down through comments):

Citizen Free Press on Twitter: "Airline Pilot Magazine APLA shows one pilot died in 2019, six in 2020, and 111 in the first nine months of 2021. https://t.co/SmtfokzrgT" / Twitter https://mobile.twitter.com/CitizenFreeP ... s-dying%2F

Re: Pilot deaths jumped 1,700% since mandating the vax

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2021 11:19 pm
by antiliberalsociety
shewhomustbeobeyed wrote: Tue Dec 14, 2021 10:42 pm
antiliberalsociety wrote: Tue Dec 14, 2021 10:38 pm Read the bottom?
The bottom link in the picture is incomplete. Just thought you might have it.
It appears they deleted it. Twitter locked the tweet, declared it "misleading", and the link from the tweet now goes to this page:

https://www.alpa.org/news-and-events/ai ... t-magazine

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Original Tweet

https://mobile.twitter.com/ToTheLifeboa ... 0431869956

Others are trying to find the source as well, only it appears to be a picture from a physical magazine. They can find other years but not 2020.

https://www.reddit.com/r/flying/comment ... ine_pilot/


Edit: I just found a complete list (not easy to find), and it is misleading.

https://www.rnpa.org/memoriam/flown-west

Re: Pilot deaths jumped 1,700% - Turns out its incomplete information

Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2021 12:02 am
by doginventer
Yes, no clear numbers to back up the claim, but that in itself does seem strange.