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@PuttItOut called out @freshmeat/sane account XD

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 3:59 pm
by MadWorld
I was looking for examples of gabai removing posts in its early stage and bumped into the thread where @PuttItOut called out @freshmeat as sane account.
https://archive.is/SnCPm#selection-3985.0-5479.6

[–] PuttItOut 43 points (+73|-30) 14 hours ago
I could say the same thing. I thought about being nice but you are the one laying down an ultimatum. It gets old. Like you've said, it's been 3 years. Three years of people doing the same thing you are doing now.
You'll see when I have time to make a post that everything is really ok and you are over reacting based entirely on false assumptions.
The truth is no one cares what you guys post(its all public lol), there is no gag order, no conspiracies, just a site with politically incorrect memes and an upward and difficult road just to stay online.
I will miss you, but I will not kneel to you.

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[–] freshmeat 4 points (+17|-13) 14 hours ago
I wonder why all the responses to your faggot ass comment are all SBBH.
Give the keys back over to Atko and fuck off, you SBBH cunt

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[–] PuttItOut 4 points (+23|-19) 14 hours ago
Go back to gab sane. They have real free speech.

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Here is the thread composed by searchvoat.co. This was probably where @system and @freshmeat crew's strong reaction to SBBH group was rooted. :lol: :lol: Even after Voat was gone, the narrative of Putt selling out Voat (to PIA) still carries on. It is a useful element to legitimize a site on the top of Voat. See, we are so much better than Voat; we do not sell out, ever.

Edit: :lol: even CEO of gabai got tired of sane. Too bad, images on kek were not mirrored in time.

Re: @PuttItOut called out @freshmeat/sane account XD

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 5:30 pm
by shewhomustbeobeyed
I was never able to fully understand the PIA controversy. It seemed that the post deshy made about it was genuine. Or i should say, the questions that were asked were genuine.
How did all of that not point to KAPEs involvement? What was the real reason Putt couldn't sell voat to one of us?
Without understanding what was happening it became too hard to follow.
Also, how sure are you that @The_Venerable, is freshmeat?

Re: @PuttItOut called out @freshmeat/sane account XD

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 9:06 pm
by antiliberalsociety
He might have just been making fun of him for acting like sanegoat.

Re: @PuttItOut called out @freshmeat/sane account XD

Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2021 3:56 am
by MadWorld
shewhomustbeobeyed wrote: Wed Sep 29, 2021 5:30 pm I was never able to fully understand the PIA controversy. It seemed that the post deshy made about it was genuine. Or i should say, the questions that were asked were genuine.
How did all of that not point to KAPEs involvement? What was the real reason Putt couldn't sell voat to one of us?
Without understanding what was happening it became too hard to follow.
Also, how sure are you that @The_Venerable, is freshmeat?
At first we thought Voat was hacked :lol: . The second thing that came to mind was that Voat's source code repo was tempered with, since Edon was running git server (I forgot which domain/subdomain it was on, but they did have a site for git repo) and we assumed it was hosted there. Putt later confirmed that it was not tempered and that he relabeled it. I think he was setting up Voat-like site for them. The info SBBH folks gathered at the time seemed reasonable after all. To the end of Voat shutdown, we also discovered that Voat had an irc test subdomain. According to the site log (if it was genuine), Putt setup the irc.voat.co and connected it to other servers. There were several servers initialized within that time-frame, which would imply that they were initialized at the same time. If I remember correctly, the setup log is no longer there. I believe that Putt was performing this service, in exchange for funding. This is my speculation. The kike's acquisition made Voat look very sketchy. Imagine how Putt could explain his way out of this, or how he could have managed to explain his way out of years of accusations of being a sellout :lol: .

>What was the real reason Putt couldn't sell voat to one of us?

This would be my speculation. If he were to hand Voat to one of us, which I do not believe he would just "sell" it, then whom would he trust to not compromise Voat's user data or turn it into a real honeypot?? If I remember correctly, Voat even hashed user's IP and was very privacy oriented. When Voat was served, the fed could not get anything useful out of it, in regard to user's identity :lol: . If I were in his shoes, I would not know if I could pass Voat to someone I supposedly trust and risk exposing any user's privacy on Voat. He did personally state in the PM that only he had the access and nobody forced him to shut down Voat. I believed him. I guess this all comes down to whether one believes in his integrity.

>Also, how sure are you that @The_Venerable, is freshmeat?

They (@freshmeat crew) showed very strong emotional reaction towards SBBH group. That reaction is as personal as it has gotten, after years of interaction. You should watch how they got so triggered sometimes, just like @freshmeat, or how he threw out the rules. My favorite was how they told users to kill themselves XD. But I do not think @The_Venerable is @freshmeat himself. @freshmeat probably contributed resource for the development. I should have archives about this subject saved somewhere. Also, there is a slight chance that the @system (developer) account might be shared. He claimed to be an old-time Goat (my fellow goat :lol: ); yet, he did not know, as a web developer, that Voat was using Markdown syntax.

Edit: something else that just came to mind, those irc servers that were initialized within the same time-frame were mostly idle/empty as well. I guess they were set up for the show, too.

Re: @PuttItOut called out @freshmeat/sane account XD

Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2021 3:57 am
by MadWorld
antiliberalsociety wrote: Wed Sep 29, 2021 9:06 pm He might have just been making fun of him for acting like sanegoat.
You know they could be in the same crew, as a developer for them :lol:

Re: @PuttItOut called out @freshmeat/sane account XD

Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2021 4:41 am
by shewhomustbeobeyed
I don't understand what 'tempered' means, in regards to developing websites. But other than that, you do some of the best techtard explanations. <3
I can see how KAPEs involvement created a bad situation. Do you think they targeted voat? That's what it seems to me.
They (@freshmeat crew) showed very strong emotional reaction towards SBBH group.
Omg, the reeeeeeeeeee's were priceless. Endless entertainment.
I guess i'll have to stop saying kys, now. That sucks!

Re: @PuttItOut called out @freshmeat/sane account XD

Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2021 2:44 pm
by MadWorld
shewhomustbeobeyed wrote: Thu Sep 30, 2021 4:41 am I don't understand what 'tempered' means, in regards to developing websites. But other than that, you do some of the best techtard explanations. <3
I can see how KAPEs involvement created a bad situation. Do you think they targeted voat? That's what it seems to me.
They (@freshmeat crew) showed very strong emotional reaction towards SBBH group.
Omg, the reeeeeeeeeee's were priceless. Endless entertainment.
I guess i'll have to stop saying kys, now. That sucks!
Edon had a site that provided source code hosting service. We initially assumed Putt was using that service. So the admin of the site could have accessed and modified Voat's about page. This was not the case. Of course they targeted Voat. It had at least two single-page websites that just happened to list Voat's name there and connected to other empty websites. If I remember correctly, they even listed irc.voat.co with 4 or so other domains. That would make it easy for others to point their fingers. I believe Deram also pointed out that the impiricalfamily had much bigger resource at their disposal and should not need to utilize Voat's irc. So it had no reason for Voat's name to be associated there, other than to make Voat look guilty.

Re: @PuttItOut called out @freshmeat/sane account XD

Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2021 5:29 pm
by Deleted User 2149
I don't understand any of this, but I wish I did!

Re: @PuttItOut called out @freshmeat/sane account XD

Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2021 7:33 pm
by antiliberalsociety
MadWorld wrote: Thu Sep 30, 2021 2:44 pm
shewhomustbeobeyed wrote: Thu Sep 30, 2021 4:41 am I don't understand what 'tempered' means, in regards to developing websites. But other than that, you do some of the best techtard explanations. <3
I can see how KAPEs involvement created a bad situation. Do you think they targeted voat? That's what it seems to me.
They (@freshmeat crew) showed very strong emotional reaction towards SBBH group.
Omg, the reeeeeeeeeee's were priceless. Endless entertainment.
I guess i'll have to stop saying kys, now. That sucks!
Edon had a site that provided source code hosting service. We initially assumed Putt was using that service. So the admin of the site could have accessed and modified Voat's about page. This was not the case. Of course they targeted Voat. It had at least two single-page websites that just happened to list Voat's name there and connected to other empty websites. If I remember correctly, they even listed irc.voat.co with 4 or so other domains. That would make it easy for others to point their fingers. I believe Deram also pointed out that the impiricalfamily had much bigger resource at their disposal and should not need to utilize Voat's irc. So it had no reason for Voat's name to be associated there, other than to make Voat look guilty.
I remember when those details broke, it's almost a gamergate level mystery going on. I remember thinking someone should appeal to /pol/ for help; but then again it's not the same animal it used to be.

Re: @PuttItOut called out @freshmeat/sane account XD

Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2021 11:15 pm
by FacelessOne2
Holy fuck this site is aids to maneuver. I cant send pms and I dont see where the chat is located