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I am going to be a zoomer dad

Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2021 1:25 am
by Deleted User 146629
Y'all can skip my ramblings and just give advice or congratulations if you'd like.

Guess who's going to be a zoomer dad in ~ 9 months? I feel old, my only hope is y'all feel older.

I found this article and it surprisingly seemed mostly right: https://www.theatlantic.com/family/arch ... ts/618172/
It essentially boils down to children are smaller, dumber adults. Once they can walk and talk they should be helping around the house, and you being the wiser bigger adult should act like it and not stoop to their level. Your job is not to coddle your kids but make it so they become mature adults. This is pretty close to what John Rosemond recommended back in the day. It goes on to say it takes more than two parents to raise a family (multiple generations > nuclear family), however it falls short by saying school teachers are equal to the parents.

I think I can figure out how to raise a boy, have him help out but don't breathe down his neck, let him try to fix his own problems, be honest with him. Mrs. T-bitty probably knows how to raise a girl however I'm admittedly more worried about that with the amount of degeneracy targeted at women. Anyone know how to raise a daughter to be a lady instead of a whore? No Kikeflix obviously.

I've seen a lot of people recommend homeschooling here and it does make sense, however I know of people homeschooled their whole lives who became degenerates when they hit 19. Plus where I live it's kind of expected to have your kids in school, even if the teachers are retards. I figure I need some way to let my kids experience the real world without being sucked in by it or being murdered by it. I was thinking maybe homeschooling them until junior high or something.

Anyway, anyone got advice?

Re: I am going to be a zoomer dad

Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2021 3:05 am
by Tallest_Skil
A hearty congratulations to you. I have this. I hope others can add to it or point to where I’m wrong.

Development

Prenatal
Without summarizing a whole nutritional, psychological, and skill training session for parents, which are all necessary knowledge bases before and during pregnancy, let us begin shortly before birth. The mother should eat many dark green vegetables and carrots, as well as meats, eggs, fish, and dairy. In the first stages of labour, it is important to be stretching, moving, and having a support group to reduce stress levels. This is when, sometimes prompted by question/information, the mother will be offered pain treatment. A strong pain-reducing procedure now commonly used in all births–especially necessary for a C-section–is an epidural. This is when a flexible tube is injected at the base of the back to the spine to release powerful, generally localized drugs to midsection and lower body. This procedure is necessarily followed by increased monitoring of the mother for the following reasons: Oxytoxin release will be altered, so a more synthetic approach is taken brand names of syntocinon and pitocin, and a synthetic delivery of oxytocin is given. Instead of being localized to the vagina and uterus, oxytocin is now body-wide in much higher doses than normally released, to make up for the general delivery. The mother-child bond is affected. The drugs given also affect the newborn because they are begun several hours prior to birth and much goes through the blood.

Birth
You should strictly make sure–ahead of time–that all doctors and nurses involved are aware you do not want circumcision. Get it in writing as a legal document. This is particularly important in American hospitals so that no one says, “No worries; no charge for you!” They will be forceful. You want delayed umbilical cord clamping. The standard is to clamp it immediately once the baby has come out. Ensure that all doctors and nurses involved know–long before the final moments–that you want delayed clamping, with the child immediately on the mother’s breast.

K1 injections are standard. You do not want to increase pain or trauma to the newborn. There are oral options if you’re convinced you need some K1/K2 for your child. The mother eating enough vitamin K (5mg-15mg during breastfeeding) will also increase amount of K in the breastmilk. There will be options to give antibacterial ointment for eyes and other topical procedures. These are also not needed, but are standard unless you refuse. There will be a multitude of vaccines that will vary slightly based on location. You can get all modern vaccines without thimerosal (mercury compound) and without any other preservatives. They will then usually come single shot per vaccine. Flu vaccines are absolutely unnecessary and have been shown to cause miscarriages. The flu virus mutates much too rapidly for effective prevention of current spreading strains. There is always more than one strain in the public. In short, just keep people with flu symptoms away from child and mother for some weeks after birth, regardless of if anyone involved has had shots. They are also recommended several times a year throughout childhood development. Refuse them all. There is no reason to use “formula” for the child. If the mother absolutely cannot breastfeed, schedule a wet nurse as you near the end of the third trimester. Keep a breastfeeding supply available and limitless for the child. Sometimes premilking and using bottles is okay, but maximum time with the mother is recommended–especially the first year to 18 months. Your child hears, sees, and learns quickly. You want interaction from the mother and the father–or, in case of the father performing duty away from home, another masculine family figure like an uncle or grandpa.

1-4
Your child will pick up language and emotions. If you speak more than two languages or know a native speaker of another language you want to introduce to the child before they reach adulthood, you’ll want to spend several hours a week speaking audibly in that language near the mother and child–even before birth. You want to ensure you articulate words and speak proper sentences to your child. Make sure no one wastes precious learning time by making idiotic baby noises. The child imitates parents and others around it, not the other way around. It is trying to learn words as the brain rapidly reorganizes (there are many synapses, lost after birth, which help augment learning). Don’t spend endless money on clothes that fit the infant for a month or two only. Hold them often and never ignore the cry of a young infant. Never exhibit stress or show extreme negative emotions near the child. If you need to vent your stress, or you notice a heated argument oncoming, do not do it in the earshot of the child. Detailed nutrition knowledge will be omitted, but never forget the importance of the foods you eat and drink. Sweets other than fruit should be avoided, and it’s better if they’re not introduced at all. Foods like honey, fully natural jams, and natural (no sugar added) peanut butter are more than sweet enough for your child.

They should learn how to play with others, how to organize, how to act in public, and how to put on a “mask” instead of showing their true selves, which is essential otherwise we eat each other. This is the beginning of acting civilized. Without learning these basic things, your child will always be a savage who throws tantrums, screams, bites, and is essentially a liberal. Most liberals are damaged in this stage in their lives, either by divorcing parents or some other reason. As the child ages several years and you have them walking and using a variety of words, talk to them often. They may not be able to understand everything you tell them or really respond. They are still listening. Speak honestly with them and encourage logic and reason when approaching problems. Children will naturally do that, so foster it. Attempting to use your authority as an adult as the only answer and the single rule for everything is not right. It won’t help them learn and trust their own decisions and thoughts.

4-8
Here’s when they learn how other people work and test this out in a simulated environment (playing house). They will test how far they can push someone before they respond (annoying). “Why does person A like person B?” “How can I get someone to like me?” “How does this group of people fit together?” Overtly instruct your children about this. Help them watch people and explain to them why people act the ways they do. Children can be manageable in this stage, as long as you continually feed them information. If they get bored or isolated in this stage, they will go nuts. They need to watch adults! The earliest cartoons can become very useful here if you pick them right, such as the Grimm classics. Don’t try to sterilize everything. Let your kids be in the outdoors, supervised closely–both before they can walk on their own and especially after. You will notice your child is not only able to learn quickly, but is gaining physical coordination rapidly after age 4. You will have been reading to them often and spending time talking with them, not just to them by this age. They can learn to read and write on their own long before the age of 6.

By 6-8, it is time to advance their science and history knowledge considerably. Remember to keep lessons short, fun, and visually enhanced with a variety of tools. They should get a primer on ecology, a good amount of lessons in mathematics, and then on to chemistry, physics, and biology. If you keep them away from random MSM before this age, history lessons should be easy. No need to relearn–just learn the facts. You will start with the foundation of your country. If you are lucky enough to live where your ancestors have lived (Europe, etc.), then that will do. Otherwise, consider starting with a brief overview of that area first. Make it fun, make it short. When questions pop up, you can go into small lessons on the details there. Emphasize work ethic above all else. That is the foundation upon which everything is accomplished.

8-12
The pre-pubertal age. They test what they learned in the previous years and try to play the adult game by acting civilized. Obviously if they didn’t learn anything, they’re going to be ruffians and bitches. Girls tend to be very manageable at this age, boys don’t–they’re biologically different and thus have a different development path. Have them start reading books about families and social situations. At 8 or 9, your child should have a solid grasp on basic science concepts. Encouraged them to do all simple math in their heads. Let them have some lessons where they choose what to learn, with your assistance. Depending on your child, they could be capable of learning unattended for short periods. What is short? 15-20 minutes of reading is short. There is no reason a child should be forced to spend more than that sitting and reading unless they love it. This is when you sexually segregate your children’s education.

Will it be the same for boys and girls? In sciences, the answer should be yes. For the average child, only very rudimentary concepts of science will have been taught to them at this stage. There is much more to learn before the advanced sciences. History can now be taught both into prehistory (where written records are few to none) and with detail. Ask questions such as “How could this isolated regional battle, development, or innovation affect distant regions, weeks or years later?” Then follow up with some facts that show what the answer happens to be. If there is a discrepancy between expectations and actual events, discuss this. Education is the foundation of the mind. Help your children get all the knowledge they seek. Read with them. Discuss what they learn. Share in the excitement they show. How fantastic a time this can be!

Nutrition should be not just foods given now, but information on why certain foods are eaten and why some types of foods are minimized. “Why are most modern foods avoided as often as possible?” How do you deal with disobedience and punishment? At this age, your child should be capable of rational thought and understanding to a surprising degree. Physical punishment should be reserved, but with some children it will be used sparsely as needed. Never strike in anger. Never attempt to teach by inflicting pain. It will only distance you. How about sexual education? How young do you start? Should they know human reproduction on the cellular level at this early period? Get them engaged in things outside of the house. Enroll them in art classes, music, sports, dance (ballet, or ballroom when they’re older) martial arts, whatever interests them. This is where they get to socialize with others their age and get exposed to the outside world, with all its negative influences.

Foster discussion with your children. Always be open and honest with them. They’re reaching adolescence and will interact with the outside world without your supervision more often. You want to talk about these experiences at every opportunity. Someone told your child that Santa Clause is real and you disapprove? Talk about it. Someone insisted your child should believe in fairy tales and they do not? Talk about it. Young humans are smarter than society gives them credit. Before puberty, you’ll have given your child lessons for life. They may not have understood them fully when given, but you will have taught them well so that they remember.

13-16
Here their hormones start to awaken. They want to mate, but aren’t physically ready. To fathers: your girls will test their seduction skills on you and any other male they trust. It’s important to let them do it (obviously draw boundaries). At this age, they’re trying to see–by experiment–how far they can push a man “in the wild” before he snaps and lashes out at them. Your girls will do stupid things to you just to see if you get mad. It’s important to get mad when you would with a girlfriend. If you get mad too soon, your daughter will be a pushover who gets used by any worthless male. If you get mad too late, your daughter will be a crazy bitch and a loose whore. This is why women without fathers in the house tend to push boyfriends too far and get themselves murdered, or don’t push them at all and the men are poor fathers.

By 18, your daughters are essentially fully developed. The only thing they will lack is experience. Focus her on academics (especially politics) and home economics. Teach her how to survive in the world during the time she has no guy to look out for her, since it’s currently socially unacceptable for girls to keep living with their parents until they’re courted by a man. Due to the societal weakness of men–physically and emotionally, she should look into a self defense course and basic urban SERE training so she can escape gangs of roving nonwhites in the West. From 18 to 25, the male brain continues to develop. Long ago, this is when men would have their own trades or work at a business for someone else. Today, well…

Re: I am going to be a zoomer dad

Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2021 4:36 am
by Cynabuns
Wonderful news! Big congratulations to you and the Mrs!!

Her hormones are going to make her crazy. Just roll with the punches.

Invite both your moms to the birth. It's amazing having them there and fulfilling for you all. Pay attention in lamaze class.

Get a good top dollar breast milk pump and FoodSaver. She feeds baby from one breast and pump the other. It will hurt like hell but worth it. Freeze the milk for down the road in good vacuum sealed FoodSaver bags. Milk can dry up if she should get sick, so you'll have a stash. Plus you and grandmas can still feed baby that best breast milk.

Speak normally, no baby talk. Read, read, read to him. When he's a decent reader, turn the book upside down, it explodes the neural pathways.

You and Mrs. T will experience a level of love you never thought possible.

And early on, you'll be so so very tired. Let moms and aunts and uncles watch baby while you nap. Seriously. And let them clean your house if they offer, it was one of the best gifts.

Gripe water for colick. Add baby flaked rice or oatmeal to bottle breast milk after a few months and you'll all sleep through the night. Start buying diapers now, and buy all sizes. You'll do this with shoes and clothes later on, buy the next half size up, she'll wake one day with crazy growing body. Buy new shoes but buy resale baby and kids clothes.

Don't forget to care for each other. Go on dates or walks alone as grandma watches the baby, even if it's just for an hour.

As stressful as things can get with a baby, and it will, never forget you've brought an amazing new life into this world.

You made that. :)

Re: I am going to be a zoomer dad

Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2021 2:53 pm
by Deleted User 146629
Tallest_Skil wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 3:05 am A hearty congratulations to you. I have this. I hope others can add to it or point to where I’m wrong.

Development

Prenatal
Without summarizing a whole nutritional, psychological, and skill training session for parents, which are all necessary knowledge bases before and during pregnancy, let us begin shortly before birth. The mother should eat many dark green vegetables and carrots, as well as meats, eggs, fish, and dairy. In the first stages of labour, it is important to be stretching, moving, and having a support group to reduce stress levels. This is when, sometimes prompted by question/information, the mother will be offered pain treatment. A strong pain-reducing procedure now commonly used in all births–especially necessary for a C-section–is an epidural. This is when a flexible tube is injected at the base of the back to the spine to release powerful, generally localized drugs to midsection and lower body. This procedure is necessarily followed by increased monitoring of the mother for the following reasons: Oxytoxin release will be altered, so a more synthetic approach is taken brand names of syntocinon and pitocin, and a synthetic delivery of oxytocin is given. Instead of being localized to the vagina and uterus, oxytocin is now body-wide in much higher doses than normally released, to make up for the general delivery. The mother-child bond is affected. The drugs given also affect the newborn because they are begun several hours prior to birth and much goes through the blood.

Birth
You should strictly make sure–ahead of time–that all doctors and nurses involved are aware you do not want circumcision. Get it in writing as a legal document. This is particularly important in American hospitals so that no one says, “No worries; no charge for you!” They will be forceful. You want delayed umbilical cord clamping. The standard is to clamp it immediately once the baby has come out. Ensure that all doctors and nurses involved know–long before the final moments–that you want delayed clamping, with the child immediately on the mother’s breast.

K1 injections are standard. You do not want to increase pain or trauma to the newborn. There are oral options if you’re convinced you need some K1/K2 for your child. The mother eating enough vitamin K (5mg-15mg during breastfeeding) will also increase amount of K in the breastmilk. There will be options to give antibacterial ointment for eyes and other topical procedures. These are also not needed, but are standard unless you refuse. There will be a multitude of vaccines that will vary slightly based on location. You can get all modern vaccines without thimerosal (mercury compound) and without any other preservatives. They will then usually come single shot per vaccine. Flu vaccines are absolutely unnecessary and have been shown to cause miscarriages. The flu virus mutates much too rapidly for effective prevention of current spreading strains. There is always more than one strain in the public. In short, just keep people with flu symptoms away from child and mother for some weeks after birth, regardless of if anyone involved has had shots. They are also recommended several times a year throughout childhood development. Refuse them all. There is no reason to use “formula” for the child. If the mother absolutely cannot breastfeed, schedule a wet nurse as you near the end of the third trimester. Keep a breastfeeding supply available and limitless for the child. Sometimes premilking and using bottles is okay, but maximum time with the mother is recommended–especially the first year to 18 months. Your child hears, sees, and learns quickly. You want interaction from the mother and the father–or, in case of the father performing duty away from home, another masculine family figure like an uncle or grandpa.

1-4
Your child will pick up language and emotions. If you speak more than two languages or know a native speaker of another language you want to introduce to the child before they reach adulthood, you’ll want to spend several hours a week speaking audibly in that language near the mother and child–even before birth. You want to ensure you articulate words and speak proper sentences to your child. Make sure no one wastes precious learning time by making idiotic baby noises. The child imitates parents and others around it, not the other way around. It is trying to learn words as the brain rapidly reorganizes (there are many synapses, lost after birth, which help augment learning). Don’t spend endless money on clothes that fit the infant for a month or two only. Hold them often and never ignore the cry of a young infant. Never exhibit stress or show extreme negative emotions near the child. If you need to vent your stress, or you notice a heated argument oncoming, do not do it in the earshot of the child. Detailed nutrition knowledge will be omitted, but never forget the importance of the foods you eat and drink. Sweets other than fruit should be avoided, and it’s better if they’re not introduced at all. Foods like honey, fully natural jams, and natural (no sugar added) peanut butter are more than sweet enough for your child.

They should learn how to play with others, how to organize, how to act in public, and how to put on a “mask” instead of showing their true selves, which is essential otherwise we eat each other. This is the beginning of acting civilized. Without learning these basic things, your child will always be a savage who throws tantrums, screams, bites, and is essentially a liberal. Most liberals are damaged in this stage in their lives, either by divorcing parents or some other reason. As the child ages several years and you have them walking and using a variety of words, talk to them often. They may not be able to understand everything you tell them or really respond. They are still listening. Speak honestly with them and encourage logic and reason when approaching problems. Children will naturally do that, so foster it. Attempting to use your authority as an adult as the only answer and the single rule for everything is not right. It won’t help them learn and trust their own decisions and thoughts.

4-8
Here’s when they learn how other people work and test this out in a simulated environment (playing house). They will test how far they can push someone before they respond (annoying). “Why does person A like person B?” “How can I get someone to like me?” “How does this group of people fit together?” Overtly instruct your children about this. Help them watch people and explain to them why people act the ways they do. Children can be manageable in this stage, as long as you continually feed them information. If they get bored or isolated in this stage, they will go nuts. They need to watch adults! The earliest cartoons can become very useful here if you pick them right, such as the Grimm classics. Don’t try to sterilize everything. Let your kids be in the outdoors, supervised closely–both before they can walk on their own and especially after. You will notice your child is not only able to learn quickly, but is gaining physical coordination rapidly after age 4. You will have been reading to them often and spending time talking with them, not just to them by this age. They can learn to read and write on their own long before the age of 6.

By 6-8, it is time to advance their science and history knowledge considerably. Remember to keep lessons short, fun, and visually enhanced with a variety of tools. They should get a primer on ecology, a good amount of lessons in mathematics, and then on to chemistry, physics, and biology. If you keep them away from random MSM before this age, history lessons should be easy. No need to relearn–just learn the facts. You will start with the foundation of your country. If you are lucky enough to live where your ancestors have lived (Europe, etc.), then that will do. Otherwise, consider starting with a brief overview of that area first. Make it fun, make it short. When questions pop up, you can go into small lessons on the details there. Emphasize work ethic above all else. That is the foundation upon which everything is accomplished.

8-12
The pre-pubertal age. They test what they learned in the previous years and try to play the adult game by acting civilized. Obviously if they didn’t learn anything, they’re going to be ruffians and bitches. Girls tend to be very manageable at this age, boys don’t–they’re biologically different and thus have a different development path. Have them start reading books about families and social situations. At 8 or 9, your child should have a solid grasp on basic science concepts. Encouraged them to do all simple math in their heads. Let them have some lessons where they choose what to learn, with your assistance. Depending on your child, they could be capable of learning unattended for short periods. What is short? 15-20 minutes of reading is short. There is no reason a child should be forced to spend more than that sitting and reading unless they love it. This is when you sexually segregate your children’s education.

Will it be the same for boys and girls? In sciences, the answer should be yes. For the average child, only very rudimentary concepts of science will have been taught to them at this stage. There is much more to learn before the advanced sciences. History can now be taught both into prehistory (where written records are few to none) and with detail. Ask questions such as “How could this isolated regional battle, development, or innovation affect distant regions, weeks or years later?” Then follow up with some facts that show what the answer happens to be. If there is a discrepancy between expectations and actual events, discuss this. Education is the foundation of the mind. Help your children get all the knowledge they seek. Read with them. Discuss what they learn. Share in the excitement they show. How fantastic a time this can be!

Nutrition should be not just foods given now, but information on why certain foods are eaten and why some types of foods are minimized. “Why are most modern foods avoided as often as possible?” How do you deal with disobedience and punishment? At this age, your child should be capable of rational thought and understanding to a surprising degree. Physical punishment should be reserved, but with some children it will be used sparsely as needed. Never strike in anger. Never attempt to teach by inflicting pain. It will only distance you. How about sexual education? How young do you start? Should they know human reproduction on the cellular level at this early period? Get them engaged in things outside of the house. Enroll them in art classes, music, sports, dance (ballet, or ballroom when they’re older) martial arts, whatever interests them. This is where they get to socialize with others their age and get exposed to the outside world, with all its negative influences.

Foster discussion with your children. Always be open and honest with them. They’re reaching adolescence and will interact with the outside world without your supervision more often. You want to talk about these experiences at every opportunity. Someone told your child that Santa Clause is real and you disapprove? Talk about it. Someone insisted your child should believe in fairy tales and they do not? Talk about it. Young humans are smarter than society gives them credit. Before puberty, you’ll have given your child lessons for life. They may not have understood them fully when given, but you will have taught them well so that they remember.

13-16
Here their hormones start to awaken. They want to mate, but aren’t physically ready. To fathers: your girls will test their seduction skills on you and any other male they trust. It’s important to let them do it (obviously draw boundaries). At this age, they’re trying to see–by experiment–how far they can push a man “in the wild” before he snaps and lashes out at them. Your girls will do stupid things to you just to see if you get mad. It’s important to get mad when you would with a girlfriend. If you get mad too soon, your daughter will be a pushover who gets used by any worthless male. If you get mad too late, your daughter will be a crazy bitch and a loose whore. This is why women without fathers in the house tend to push boyfriends too far and get themselves murdered, or don’t push them at all and the men are poor fathers.

By 18, your daughters are essentially fully developed. The only thing they will lack is experience. Focus her on academics (especially politics) and home economics. Teach her how to survive in the world during the time she has no guy to look out for her, since it’s currently socially unacceptable for girls to keep living with their parents until they’re courted by a man. Due to the societal weakness of men–physically and emotionally, she should look into a self defense course and basic urban SERE training so she can escape gangs of roving nonwhites in the West. From 18 to 25, the male brain continues to develop. Long ago, this is when men would have their own trades or work at a business for someone else. Today, well…
Thank you Tallest, I will be saving all this advice. Neither the Mrs nor myself have much of a sweet tooth so no sugar shouldn't be a problem. I can definitely find self defense courses however finding a SERE course might be harder, although if all else fails I have friends who can teach some things I'm sure.

Re: I am going to be a zoomer dad

Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2021 2:56 pm
by Deleted User 146629
Cynabuns wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 4:36 am Wonderful news! Big congratulations to you and the Mrs!!

Her hormones are going to make her crazy. Just roll with the punches.

Invite both your moms to the birth. It's amazing having them there and fulfilling for you all. Pay attention in lamaze class.

Get a good top dollar breast milk pump and FoodSaver. She feeds baby from one breast and pump the other. It will hurt like hell but worth it. Freeze the milk for down the road in good vacuum sealed FoodSaver bags. Milk can dry up if she should get sick, so you'll have a stash. Plus you and grandmas can still feed baby that best breast milk.

Speak normally, no baby talk. Read, read, read to him. When he's a decent reader, turn the book upside down, it explodes the neural pathways.

You and Mrs. T will experience a level of love you never thought possible.

And early on, you'll be so so very tired. Let moms and aunts and uncles watch baby while you nap. Seriously. And let them clean your house if they offer, it was one of the best gifts.

Gripe water for colick. Add baby flaked rice or oatmeal to bottle breast milk after a few months and you'll all sleep through the night. Start buying diapers now, and buy all sizes. You'll do this with shoes and clothes later on, buy the next half size up, she'll wake one day with crazy growing body. Buy new shoes but buy resale baby and kids clothes.

Don't forget to care for each other. Go on dates or walks alone as grandma watches the baby, even if it's just for an hour.

As stressful as things can get with a baby, and it will, never forget you've brought an amazing new life into this world.

You made that. :)
Thank you Cyna, reading should be fun, already one of my favorite things to do. After a few months add oatmeal to breast milk to help the kid sleep, got it, will do.

Re: I am going to be a zoomer dad

Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2021 11:35 pm
by Twodivinehipsters
Congrats! I am going to copy and paste some advice I’ve given women to avoid forced c sections. Worded for women to read but you should be aware of all this as well as share it with her. Doctors might try to force surgery for something like the baby being breech or the fetal heart monitor spooking them when those aren’t always accurate. Some doctors do c sections because it’s just convenient for them, or they want the extra money. No matter the situation surgery is always a woman’s choice legally but doctors don’t always respect that. Here it is:


1. Keep your phone charged and with you at all times, at your side at the hospital. Bring a charger. Record on your phone, there are voice recorder apps that run in the background. Call police if you have to.
2. Don't sign consent forms for the surgery if you don't want it, even if they yell at you and make it seem like the only way out of the room is to sign them. I tried to sign using my maiden name to trick them into letting me out of the room since I was supposed to use my real name but it wasn't enough for a lawyer to help me, and once I signed it no one else in the hospital cared I was yelling for them not to. If you refuse to sign they can get in trouble, they don't want to be sued.
3. Use legal terms with them. Yelling at someone, saying they need to sign consent forms and have no choice is called consent under duress*. Refusing medical treatment while being aware of the risks is called informed refusal. If you want to leave ask to sign an AMA form (against medical advice form) so the doctors won't be liable for letting you leave under their care, that way they won't panic about possibly getting sued.
4. Bring up the American College of Gynecology's view on forced medical treatment, which you can find here: https://www.acog.org/clinical/clinical- ... -pregnancy
5. Have someone with you at all times, don't let them leave your room. Have them bring food and drink, if they smoke ask them use a nicotine patch or nicotine gum. If you're not allowed to have someone in your room, or want extra people just in case then have a video chat going. Discuss your concerns and the legal terms with them so they can call for help if they need to.
6. I'm not 100% sure on this one but have heard you can ask for a hep lock/j loop IV instead of being attached to the IV stand. That way you can move around easier during labor/birth which is a good excuse to ask for it, but it'll also allow you to walk out of the hospital if you need to. I didn't walk out because I was stuck to an IV. An epidural would get you stuck too but I wouldn't recommend those anyway. When I had my first baby I had an epidural and it fell out when I started pushing and damaged the nerves in my back. I told some mom friends I have and a few of them said they had nerve damage from an epidural too, apparently that's pretty common.
*definition of duress: threats, violence, constraints, or other action brought to bear on someone to do something against their will or better judgment
I hope I didn't freak you out. Having a baby is worth the risks, and now that you have this information you'll be able to protect your wife. If I'd known all this I'm pretty sure I could have avoided being forced into surgery. That hospital took advantage of me because I didn't know how to handle the situation.

Re: I am going to be a zoomer dad

Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2021 1:53 am
by Deleted User 146629
Twodivinehipsters wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 11:35 pm Congrats! I am going to copy and paste some advice I’ve given women to avoid forced c sections. Worded for women to read but you should be aware of all this as well as share it with her. Doctors might try to force surgery for something like the baby being breech or the fetal heart monitor spooking them when those aren’t always accurate. Some doctors do c sections because it’s just convenient for them, or they want the extra money. No matter the situation surgery is always a woman’s choice legally but doctors don’t always respect that. Here it is:


1. Keep your phone charged and with you at all times, at your side at the hospital. Bring a charger. Record on your phone, there are voice recorder apps that run in the background. Call police if you have to.
2. Don't sign consent forms for the surgery if you don't want it, even if they yell at you and make it seem like the only way out of the room is to sign them. I tried to sign using my maiden name to trick them into letting me out of the room since I was supposed to use my real name but it wasn't enough for a lawyer to help me, and once I signed it no one else in the hospital cared I was yelling for them not to. If you refuse to sign they can get in trouble, they don't want to be sued.
3. Use legal terms with them. Yelling at someone, saying they need to sign consent forms and have no choice is called consent under duress*. Refusing medical treatment while being aware of the risks is called informed refusal. If you want to leave ask to sign an AMA form (against medical advice form) so the doctors won't be liable for letting you leave under their care, that way they won't panic about possibly getting sued.
4. Bring up the American College of Gynecology's view on forced medical treatment, which you can find here: https://www.acog.org/clinical/clinical- ... -pregnancy
5. Have someone with you at all times, don't let them leave your room. Have them bring food and drink, if they smoke ask them use a nicotine patch or nicotine gum. If you're not allowed to have someone in your room, or want extra people just in case then have a video chat going. Discuss your concerns and the legal terms with them so they can call for help if they need to.
6. I'm not 100% sure on this one but have heard you can ask for a hep lock/j loop IV instead of being attached to the IV stand. That way you can move around easier during labor/birth which is a good excuse to ask for it, but it'll also allow you to walk out of the hospital if you need to. I didn't walk out because I was stuck to an IV. An epidural would get you stuck too but I wouldn't recommend those anyway. When I had my first baby I had an epidural and it fell out when I started pushing and damaged the nerves in my back. I told some mom friends I have and a few of them said they had nerve damage from an epidural too, apparently that's pretty common.
*definition of duress: threats, violence, constraints, or other action brought to bear on someone to do something against their will or better judgment
I hope I didn't freak you out. Having a baby is worth the risks, and now that you have this information you'll be able to protect your wife. If I'd known all this I'm pretty sure I could have avoided being forced into surgery. That hospital took advantage of me because I didn't know how to handle the situation.
Thank you for the information, I will note it. The Mrs also appreciated the info.

Re: I am going to be a zoomer dad

Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2021 6:50 pm
by Udeveli Omhlophe
T-bitty wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 1:25 am Y'all can skip my ramblings and just give advice or congratulations if you'd like.

Guess who's going to be a zoomer dad in ~ 9 months? I feel old, my only hope is y'all feel older.

I found this article and it surprisingly seemed mostly right: https://www.theatlantic.com/family/arch ... ts/618172/
It essentially boils down to children are smaller, dumber adults. Once they can walk and talk they should be helping around the house, and you being the wiser bigger adult should act like it and not stoop to their level. Your job is not to coddle your kids but make it so they become mature adults. This is pretty close to what John Rosemond recommended back in the day. It goes on to say it takes more than two parents to raise a family (multiple generations > nuclear family), however it falls short by saying school teachers are equal to the parents.

I think I can figure out how to raise a boy, have him help out but don't breathe down his neck, let him try to fix his own problems, be honest with him. Mrs. T-bitty probably knows how to raise a girl however I'm admittedly more worried about that with the amount of degeneracy targeted at women. Anyone know how to raise a daughter to be a lady instead of a whore? No Kikeflix obviously.

I've seen a lot of people recommend homeschooling here and it does make sense, however I know of people homeschooled their whole lives who became degenerates when they hit 19. Plus where I live it's kind of expected to have your kids in school, even if the teachers are retards. I figure I need some way to let my kids experience the real world without being sucked in by it or being murdered by it. I was thinking maybe homeschooling them until junior high or something.

Anyway, anyone got advice?

The major thing for a parent is to pay attention and occasionally participate to what is happening with their kids lives so if you do see a problem you can help them. So just show them love, attention and honesty about your worries.
However maybe I'm being alarmist but I feel there's a big issue right now with gangs, drugs, sex and money in the west and that culturally we've regressed to were civilization is barely holding on.

Re: I am going to be a zoomer dad

Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2021 7:59 pm
by merlynn132
Ok,sure. Make sure you feed them the most natural diet possible. If you can grow your own,that's best,but as purely natural as you can. And yes,teachers are equal to parents in responsibility to your kids. Very few teachers will live up to that responsibility and will gladly teach your child whatever the jews tell them to. They don't care if it's bullshit. Good teachers are a godsend. So make sure you got responsible teachers. If they show signs of laziness or bullshit you with stuff like "It's part of the curriculum tho" even if they know it's bullshit,get 'em a better school if you can. Also,bare in mind that curriculums only change if enough parents make noise. They could be asking you for help. School is good for learning social skills,but in the end,if you don't want 'em socializing with certain people,home schooling is the way to go.

Defence against degeneracy is a life long task. It's especially hard for girls cause there's always thirsty assholes who will do and say anything to get that pussy. See male feminists. As such,you should probably teach your daughter that any guy can come up and promise the moon and stars and then pump and dump. So it's probably best to treat all comers as pump and dumpers. Meaning,if she's gonna whore out,she should get all she can out of it. Cause he might be leaving after the orgasm. But the best case scenario is always getting married before you have sex cause if he decides to leave then,she can take half his shit. But she should only marry a guy she can stand to be around. Either party leaving the marriage means you both fucked up,tho.

The reason a lot of home schoolers go full degenerate when they turn 19 is they're now out in the world without mom or dad telling them what to do. So they immediately start doing what their new degenerate friends do. Don't raise your kids in a bubble. Tell them about the degeneracy and why it's bad. Keeping your kids from evil only works so long as they stay away from evil all their lives. If they come in contact with evil and don't know what it is,they're much more likely to fall for it's tricks. You gotta teach kids the world does have rainbows and kittens and lollipops but it also has rapists,murderers,and thieves as well as jews who are all three. So yeah,tell them what they're gonna be up against and you'll be doing them a great service.

Re: I am going to be a zoomer dad

Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2021 8:52 pm
by Deleted User 146629
Udeveli Omhlophe wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 6:50 pm
The major thing for a parent is to pay attention and occasionally participate to what is happening with their kids lives so if you do see a problem you can help them. So just show them love, attention and honesty about your worries.
However maybe I'm being alarmist but I feel there's a big issue right now with gangs, drugs, sex and money in the west and that culturally we've regressed to were civilization is barely holding on.
Sounds good. The West is dying if not already dead, I'm just, perhaps naively, hoping it hangs on a little bit longer.