The SearchVoat Forum

chrimony wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 2:06 pmIt's that I have no tolerance for admins that act like clay pot dictators while claiming to run a "free speech" site.

And what I–and many others–are attempting to make you understand is that

you do not understand what “freedom of speech” actually fucking means.

The Founding Fathers had absolutely no goddamned intention of allowing anyone to say anything at any time, for any reason. They wanted to enshrine protection of a man’s right to question his government and the application of his society’s laws. At no time did they so much as tolerate pornography, slovenliness, or moral degeneracy within society. Such speech has NEVER been protected. Ever. “Fire” in a crowded theater once had higher protections than that, and with good reason.

We don’t support the libertine bullshit definition of today. We don’t support the (((libertarian))) conception of “freedom” to be degenerate. We never have. THAT SHIT IS WHAT GOT US IN THIS MESS. “Freedom of speech” means “protection of the self and insurance of message retention when expressing the truth.”

And I'm not even against vote gaming being against the rules -- it should be.

Gotta agree with you there. Voting should operationally do absolutely nothing. It should have no power over users’ ability to use or access a website.

But instead of just putting it into the rules...

If that’s the extent of your position, then I’ll have to apologize.

Tallest_Skil wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 9:11 pm And what I–and many others–are attempting to make you understand is that

you do not understand what “freedom of speech” actually fucking means.

I can tell you what it doesn't mean: Some asshole admin being the sole arbiter of what's allowed to be said, without any guiding principles.

The Founding Fathers had absolutely no goddamned intention of allowing anyone to say anything at any time, for any reason. They wanted to enshrine protection of a man’s right to question his government and the application of his society’s laws. At no time did they so much as tolerate pornography, slovenliness, or moral degeneracy within society. Such speech has NEVER been protected. Ever. “Fire” in a crowded theater once had higher protections than that, and with good reason.

Well that's rather broad, isn't it? How can you question government and the application of society's laws without going into issues such as "moral degeneracy"? That's the same reasoning used by any authoritarian government to stifle free speech. It's the same reasoning for blasphemy laws. The same reasoning used by China to ensure "social harmony". The same reasoning used by North Korea to protect "Dear Leader".

We don’t support the libertine bullshit definition of today. We don’t support the (((libertarian))) conception of “freedom” to be degenerate. We never have. THAT SHIT IS WHAT GOT US IN THIS MESS. “Freedom of speech” means “protection of the self and insurance of message retention when expressing the truth.”

Oh fuck off with this "we" shit. You're speaking for YOU.

Voat is dead, /pol/ is dead, every site is run by crazy powermods and retards, "our" movement never made any progress anyways, I seriously tried to have hope but its just over, dont become a normalfag but its time to just give up on the movement, maybe one day the people in it will be less retarded but I doubt it.

chrimony wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:46 amHow can you question government and the application of society's laws without going into issues such as "moral degeneracy"?

“Why is fucking children banned?” That’s questioning the government.
“I want to fuck children and will fight for the right to do so!” That’s a bullet to the brain.

Oh fuck off with this "we" shit. You're speaking for YOU.

Thanks; your outgrouping tactics don’t work here. You failed. Your inability to understand our ideological precepts does not mean we don’t have them.

Tallest_Skil wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 8:44 pm “Why is fucking children banned?” That’s questioning the government.
“I want to fuck children and will fight for the right to do so!” That’s a bullet to the brain.

In reality, you'd assume anybody asking the former is saying the latter. Don't pretend otherwise.

Thanks; your outgrouping tactics don’t work here. You failed. Your inability to understand our ideological precepts does not mean we don’t have them.

Who elected you to speak for them? Oh, that's right, NOBODY.

Tallest_Skil wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 8:44 pm

chrimony wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:46 amHow can you question government and the application of society's laws without going into issues such as "moral degeneracy"?

“Why is fucking children banned?” That’s questioning the government.
“I want to fuck children and will fight for the right to do so!” That’s a bullet to the brain.

Oh fuck off with this "we" shit. You're speaking for YOU.

Thanks; your outgrouping tactics don’t work here. You failed. Your inability to understand our ideological precepts does not mean we don’t have them.

Why the fuck are you attacking @chrimony? When the fuck did he say he supports fucking children? Because he defended two people who @The_Venerable accused of being the same person who clearly were not?
Him stating the obvious, that @The_Venerable banning two accounts on flimsy "evidence" is not a sign of a good admin does not equal him defending the actions of the two posters.
He literally didn't even state he was against banning the two accounts he just stated he was against the reasoning behind it.
Keep being a total retard though.

“Not real free speech.”
Dude stop worshiping an abstraction. Hitler banned pedo and tranny shit. That’s not free speech. Free speech sucks. You shouldn’t be allowed to post nigger pedo porn on television because you’re rich and powerful. It’s fucking simple dude and it’s might makes right. This is a LAW of nature. Shitlibs are smart to ban our shit. I’m pro free speech insofar as that it helps myself will to power. My ideology is opposed to the zeitgeist so for now I am pro free speech. If I had power though? Lol lots of shit would be banned. You retards need to read some philosophy or something or learn how literally anything works. Redefining words to make them fit into your ideology is so retarded. The truth of the matter is NOBODY ON EARTH BELIEVES IN FREE SPEECH. And that’s actually a good thing. No, I don’t think you should be able to freely subvert my society. “I’ll die for the right for you to say whatever you want” is cucked and fucking gay. Don’t be like the communists dude “that’s not real communism.” Let’s be fucking smart about this.

Tallest, let me tell you what actually happened okay man? You know me from voat. You know I’m not a kike or a shill and you’ve seen my shit. Dude, this admin lied. Just like AOU lies. Do you remember poal man? Wait, you didn’t join poal until late in the game but let me explain. Pretty much I played by the rules on poal for about a week or two but noticed how the admin was saying stuff that didn’t seem to add up. I HATE and do not tolerate liars to the point where I refuse to use the website if the admin lies at all even once. It just so happens AOU is a megalomaniac power tripping liar who constantly lied and humans being the retarded sheep they are believed whatever he said so I MUST have been lying. First they banned NSP for posting a 25 year old Japanese girl which I had a problem with. After that NSP made an alt calling out AOU. He upvoted and downvoted ZERO things on that account and called out AOU for being a faggot. Guess what happened dude? He got the mark “suspicious activity and nuked to -100 fag point. Well I guess it’s not an algorithm then is it huh? He stated multiple times that the reason people got their accounts nuked (you can’t make subverses until level 10 and he obviously didn’t want anyone from voat making them) is because of an AUTOMATIC ALGORITHM THAT I PROVED DID NOT EXIST. AOU nukes accounts he doesn’t like MANUALLY. So he lied. Today he just straight up mask off admits he’s the one doing the nuking and doesn’t even pretend but back then he was lying constantly. The poster @fightknightHERO on poal got nuked first and was the first example of a non complete troll being nuked. The reason? He called out AOU for being a faggot. The reason given by AOU? He said he downvoted too much which fightknighthero admitted to doing to Qtard shit so it was ambiguous whether he was nuked by an algorithm or not. So how did I find out the nuke (suspicious behavior tag and de leveling) wasn’t an algorithm but actually the will of AOU himself? Let’s go back to NSP. NSP made an alt right after he got banned and just called out AOU and then got nuked. How? He downvoted and upvoted 0 things. It’s the perfect control. AOU manually did it. I made a thread showing evidence and calling the algorithm a lie and some native poal faggots who could actually reason agreed with me. Sadly 90% of the voat retards and pretty much everyone on poal didn’t believe me. What did AOU do about this? Literally proves me right by nuking my account when he woke up. I went to sleep, not downvoting anything with my level 12 or whatever account and woke up to a nuked account because at the SAME TIME he woke up I got nuked. No algorithm. The admin is proven to be lying. I make a new thread with this new info pleading my case and yet again more cock sucking of the admin. Hahaha you are all such retards for not believing me when all I ever do is tell the truth. Today AOU doesn’t even hide it. He wants goats gone and he nukes whoever challenges him. Vindication. Get fucked. Now why do I bring this up? Because the same shit is happening to new voat. I made an alt named BloodElfPaladinFemale for fun just to fuck with boomers and shit. All I did is post 2 anime pictures of a 16 year old anime girl and make a few comments fucking with this one boomer who kept stalking hitler. hitler posted like 50 threads with random shit, mostly crappy low quality anime gif memes and the like and I upvoted maybe 5 of them and commented on 5 of his threads. To fuck with the boomer I even copy pasted an exact comment because he was sperging out about how we were the same person. Then the boomer made a new thread about how he had “proof” that we were the same person and system chimed in LYING saying how he confirmed that we were. What was his confirmation? I’m guessing the fact that we upvoted each other more than once. No IP or Mac addresses or anything. Just either lying or being dumb as fuck. No, I will not use a website with a lying admin so I deleted my account. After that @system said that @Nukeisrael (ME NIGGER) was the same as all the other people. He literally thinks hitler @Nukeisrael northseapagan bloodelfpaladinhero are all the same person. He’s completely fucking wrong and either lied knowingly or made a mistake. Nope, fuck new voat and fuck you for supporting it. Time will tell but I promise you that his mentality is one of a very hands on approach and more and more people will start being banned and accused of shit they didn’t do. Now call me a kike you dumb faggot. I’m always fucking right and it just takes some time for sub 130 iq subhuman monsters to catch up.

Tell me I’m lying bitch.