The SearchVoat Forum

SearchVoat wrote: ↑Wed Aug 31, 2022 8:30 pm

kestrel9 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 31, 2022 8:01 pm Puttitout claimed he would scrub child related offending sexual content and when I reported a host of child rape, toddler rape, child sex trafficking loli nothing was ever done about. What would look like a still picture was actually a gang rape of a loli toddler if you moved your mouse around pic.
That's what it would take to really 'keep an eye out' for offending submissions and you lose a piece of your soul doing it. Closing the site was about the only way to deal with it once it takes hold. Loli porn is a pedo magnet subverse, gives a place to privately exchange cp and share links to cp. Fuck that. I'll vote with my feet. I had enough of pedo culture polluting up every space on the internet.

@SearchVoat

Yeah the whole thing sucks. It's the massive thorn in the side of any site that attempts to accommodate full-on free speech.

The original voat.co ToS said "You agree not to post any child pornography or sexually suggestive content involving minors" which is now the rule here.

My solution to the dichotomy between "free speech" and "pedo shit" is the Pedo subverse tag. At least that keeps that stuff off your feed, and gives the pedos a play area without nauseating the 99%. Even that compromise still absolutely repels many many users. For me, it's trade-off between true free speech and popularity. For now, at this point in my life, I consider true free speech to be an absolute priority.

I believe that sharing explicit sexually abusive content of minors via cartoon images is legally considered 'just' cartoon porn (even the gang rape of two year olds). However, it's also a staging ground for pedos to engage in illegal activities. The original voat.co ToS had to do with images of real children. I understand that one can't police a person's private fantasy life so the deal is to what degree to you want to look at loli cp just to effectively police it? What balance of subscribers do you want on this site? Just by people's choice, it may be that the pedo minded presence on the site becomes disruptive enough to drive users away, it's not like these fuckers are content to keep to themselves, is it? They know that their content is toxic in ways that 99.9% of all other 'free speech' is not. It's up to you just as it's up to the users to decide how much is worth putting up with.

I agree with you completely. It's a real problem.

kestrel9 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 31, 2022 8:58 pm ...the deal is to what degree to you want to look at loli cp just to effectively police it?

Not much. I'll cross that bridge when I come to it.

kestrel9 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 31, 2022 8:58 pm What balance of subscribers do you want on this site? Just by people's choice, it may be that the pedo minded presence on the site becomes disruptive enough to drive users away, it's not like these fuckers are content to keep to themselves, is it? They know that their content is toxic in ways that 99.9% of all other 'free speech' is not. It's up to you just as it's up to the users to decide how much is worth putting up with.

As I said before: Right now, in my life, I'm experimenting with pure free speech, because I believe it is at the heart of the revolution. To be honest, I don't care how many users I have. You can see how much effort I put in this place for the two of you. Maybe later I'll push for (anonymous) fame and popularity and traffic but right now I'm just trying to figure out how to manage this.

For that reason, I absolutely love the debate that's happening here atm.

SearchVoat wrote: ↑Wed Aug 31, 2022 8:30 pm

kestrel9 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 31, 2022 8:01 pm Puttitout claimed he would scrub child related offending sexual content and when I reported a host of child rape, toddler rape, child sex trafficking loli nothing was ever done about. What would look like a still picture was actually a gang rape of a loli toddler if you moved your mouse around pic.
That's what it would take to really 'keep an eye out' for offending submissions and you lose a piece of your soul doing it. Closing the site was about the only way to deal with it once it takes hold. Loli porn is a pedo magnet subverse, gives a place to privately exchange cp and share links to cp. Fuck that. I'll vote with my feet. I had enough of pedo culture polluting up every space on the internet.

@SearchVoat

Yeah the whole thing sucks. It's the massive thorn in the side of any site that attempts to accommodate full-on free speech.

The original voat.co ToS said "You agree not to post any child pornography or sexually suggestive content involving minors" which is now the rule here [Edit: apart from Pedo subs; no CP anywhere obviously].

My solution to the dichotomy between "free speech" and "pedo shit" is the Pedo subverse tag. At least that keeps that stuff off your feed, and gives the pedos a play area without nauseating the 99%. Even that compromise still absolutely repels many many users. For me, it's trade-off between true free speech and popularity. For now, at this point in my life, I consider true free speech to be an absolute priority.

You're a lying sack of shit. Least we forget:

antiliberalsociety wrote: ↑Wed Aug 31, 2022 10:01 pm

SearchVoat wrote: ↑Wed Aug 31, 2022 8:30 pm

kestrel9 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 31, 2022 8:01 pm Puttitout claimed he would scrub child related offending sexual content and when I reported a host of child rape, toddler rape, child sex trafficking loli nothing was ever done about. What would look like a still picture was actually a gang rape of a loli toddler if you moved your mouse around pic.
That's what it would take to really 'keep an eye out' for offending submissions and you lose a piece of your soul doing it. Closing the site was about the only way to deal with it once it takes hold. Loli porn is a pedo magnet subverse, gives a place to privately exchange cp and share links to cp. Fuck that. I'll vote with my feet. I had enough of pedo culture polluting up every space on the internet.

@SearchVoat

Yeah the whole thing sucks. It's the massive thorn in the side of any site that attempts to accommodate full-on free speech.

The original voat.co ToS said "You agree not to post any child pornography or sexually suggestive content involving minors" which is now the rule here [Edit: apart from Pedo subs; no CP anywhere obviously].

My solution to the dichotomy between "free speech" and "pedo shit" is the Pedo subverse tag. At least that keeps that stuff off your feed, and gives the pedos a play area without nauseating the 99%. Even that compromise still absolutely repels many many users. For me, it's trade-off between true free speech and popularity. For now, at this point in my life, I consider true free speech to be an absolute priority.

You're a lying sack of shit. Least we forget:

The original voat.co ToS said "You agree not to post any child pornography or sexually suggestive content involving minors" which is now the rule here [Edit: apart from Pedo subs; no CP anywhere obviously].

Wait, is that meant to read that cp is already allowed on the 'pedo playground' subs? Or just 'narrowly cp' is allowed? /s

kestrel9 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 31, 2022 10:14 pm

antiliberalsociety wrote: ↑Wed Aug 31, 2022 10:01 pm

SearchVoat wrote: ↑Wed Aug 31, 2022 8:30 pm

Yeah the whole thing sucks. It's the massive thorn in the side of any site that attempts to accommodate full-on free speech.

The original voat.co ToS said "You agree not to post any child pornography or sexually suggestive content involving minors" which is now the rule here [Edit: apart from Pedo subs; no CP anywhere obviously].

My solution to the dichotomy between "free speech" and "pedo shit" is the Pedo subverse tag. At least that keeps that stuff off your feed, and gives the pedos a play area without nauseating the 99%. Even that compromise still absolutely repels many many users. For me, it's trade-off between true free speech and popularity. For now, at this point in my life, I consider true free speech to be an absolute priority.

You're a lying sack of shit. Least we forget:

The original voat.co ToS said "You agree not to post any child pornography or sexually suggestive content involving minors" which is now the rule here [Edit: apart from Pedo subs; no CP anywhere obviously].

Wait, is that meant to read that cp is already allowed on the 'pedo playground' subs? Or just 'narrowly cp' is allowed? /s

CP is and always has been allowed in subs tagged "pedo" which (((Blume))) already has in his AnythingGoes sub. The same sub where @SearchVoat made his confession. I had to enable the pedo filter to see it.

The "hands up" photo was of girls in full frontal nudity from 12-16. He since cropped it so it doesn't show below the waste. That's what SV disagrees "narrowly" with, that it's CP.

I shit you not.

antiliberalsociety wrote: ↑Wed Aug 31, 2022 10:22 pm

kestrel9 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 31, 2022 10:14 pm

antiliberalsociety wrote: ↑Wed Aug 31, 2022 10:01 pm

You're a lying sack of shit. Least we forget:

The original voat.co ToS said "You agree not to post any child pornography or sexually suggestive content involving minors" which is now the rule here [Edit: apart from Pedo subs; no CP anywhere obviously].

Wait, is that meant to read that cp is already allowed on the 'pedo playground' subs? Or just 'narrowly cp' is allowed? /s

CP is and always has been allowed in subs tagged "pedo" which (((Blume))) already has in his AnythingGoes sub. The same sub where @SearchVoat made his confession. I had to enable the pedo filter to see it.

The "hands up" photo was of girls in full frontal nudity from 12-16. He since cropped it so it doesn't show below the waste. That's what SV disagrees "narrowly" with, that it's CP.

I shit you not.

I assumed cp and sexually suggestive photos of real children were not allowed. Thanks for clarifying.

kestrel9 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 31, 2022 10:14 pm

The original voat.co ToS said "You agree not to post any child pornography or sexually suggestive content involving minors" which is now the rule here [Edit: apart from Pedo subs; no CP anywhere obviously].

Wait, is that meant to read that cp is already allowed on the 'pedo playground' subs? Or just 'narrowly cp' is allowed? /s

No, I expressed that badly. There are 2 categories here: CP (which is obviously completely banned from the site) and "sexually suggestive material involving minors" (as it's expressed here) which is permitted, but only in subs tagged "Pedo".

"Sexually suggestive material involving minors" basically means legal pedo shit: loli drawings, non-sexual photos of naked underage girls (like the "hands up" photo), suggestive photos of clothed children, text stories about child sexual abuse, all that kind of stuff. It's US legal, so by my rule it's permitted here, even though 99% of users find it disgusting.

tl'dr Pedo shit is permitted (not outright CP of course), but as our ToS say, it is "content may not be posted outside forums tagged appropriately".

SearchVoat wrote: ↑Wed Aug 31, 2022 10:32 pm

kestrel9 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 31, 2022 10:14 pm

The original voat.co ToS said "You agree not to post any child pornography or sexually suggestive content involving minors" which is now the rule here [Edit: apart from Pedo subs; no CP anywhere obviously].

Wait, is that meant to read that cp is already allowed on the 'pedo playground' subs? Or just 'narrowly cp' is allowed? /s

No, I expressed that badly. There are 2 categories here: CP (which is obviously completely banned from the site) and "sexually suggestive material involving minors" (as it's expressed here) which is permitted, but only in subs tagged "Pedo".

"Sexually suggestive material involving minors" basically means legal pedo shit: loli drawings, non-sexual photos of naked underage girls (like the "hands up" photo), suggestive photos of clothed children, text stories about child sexual abuse, all that kind of stuff. It's US legal, so by my rule it's permitted here, even though 99% of users find it disgusting.

tl'dr Pedo shit is permitted (not outright CP of course), but as our ToS say, it is "content may not be posted outside forums tagged appropriately".

I'm clearly playing catch up on current events, (didn't know about the text stories etc. 'all that kind of stuff'. I got the drift on the dox debate I think. But what is the latest requested sub exactly?

SearchVoat wrote: ↑Wed Aug 31, 2022 10:32 pm

kestrel9 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 31, 2022 10:14 pm

The original voat.co ToS said "You agree not to post any child pornography or sexually suggestive content involving minors" which is now the rule here [Edit: apart from Pedo subs; no CP anywhere obviously].

Wait, is that meant to read that cp is already allowed on the 'pedo playground' subs? Or just 'narrowly cp' is allowed? /s

No, I expressed that badly. There are 2 categories here: CP (which is obviously completely banned from the site) and "sexually suggestive material involving minors" (as it's expressed here) which is permitted, but only in subs tagged "Pedo".

"Sexually suggestive material involving minors" basically means legal pedo shit: loli drawings, non-sexual photos of naked underage girls (like the "hands up" photo), suggestive photos of clothed children, text stories about child sexual abuse, all that kind of stuff. It's US legal, so by my rule it's permitted here, even though 99% of users find it disgusting.

tl'dr Pedo shit is permitted (not outright CP of course), but as our ToS say, it is "content may not be posted outside forums tagged appropriately".

This right here:

It's US legal, so by my rule it's permitted here

is what makes you a lying hypocritical scum bag. You know what else is US legal?

Sharing personal information voluntarily uploaded to the internet.

But sexualization of kids is free speech...

antiliberalsociety wrote: ↑Wed Aug 31, 2022 10:43 pm

SearchVoat wrote: ↑Wed Aug 31, 2022 10:32 pm

kestrel9 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 31, 2022 10:14 pm

Wait, is that meant to read that cp is already allowed on the 'pedo playground' subs? Or just 'narrowly cp' is allowed? /s

No, I expressed that badly. There are 2 categories here: CP (which is obviously completely banned from the site) and "sexually suggestive material involving minors" (as it's expressed here) which is permitted, but only in subs tagged "Pedo".

"Sexually suggestive material involving minors" basically means legal pedo shit: loli drawings, non-sexual photos of naked underage girls (like the "hands up" photo), suggestive photos of clothed children, text stories about child sexual abuse, all that kind of stuff. It's US legal, so by my rule it's permitted here, even though 99% of users find it disgusting.

tl'dr Pedo shit is permitted (not outright CP of course), but as our ToS say, it is "content may not be posted outside forums tagged appropriately".

This right here:

It's US legal, so by my rule it's permitted here

is what makes you a lying hypocritical scum bag. You know what else is US legal?

Sharing personal information voluntarily uploaded to the internet.

But sexualization of kids is free speech...

!!!! Spot on !!!!