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Re: I Guess Paul’s Writings Are Inspired After All

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shewhomustbeobeyed wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2025 2:12 am I've never spent much time reading Paul, other than the times I read bible cover to cover. When studying NT it's always been about the "words in red". the words of Yahusha. He always spoke of his father and his kingdom, and to obey the law. The narrow path.
Paul taught the wide path. He was also a narcissistic sociopathic incel. imo
Which of his statements made you feel this way?
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doginventer wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2025 1:13 pm Which of his statements made you feel this way?
All of his writings. It's like reading the diary of a madman.
The one thing that really made me turn away from his work, and consider him an antichrist is his saying it's ok to eat meat that has been sacrificed to idols. Anyone who knows history, or just knows about PG, knows that the "meat" could possibly be long pork. How come Pauls jesus didn't know that? Pretty sure Yahusha knows all about the soylent green, and does not endorse it.
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shewhomustbeobeyed wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2025 2:53 pm
doginventer wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2025 1:13 pm Which of his statements made you feel this way?
All of his writings. It's like reading the diary of a madman.
The one thing that really made me turn away from his work, and consider him an antichrist is his saying it's ok to eat meat that has been sacrificed to idols. Anyone who knows history, or just knows about PG, knows that the "meat" could possibly be long pork. How come Pauls jesus didn't know that? Pretty sure Yahusha knows all about the soylent green, and does not endorse it.
10 And he called the multitude, and said unto them, Hear, and understand:
11 Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man; but that which cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man.
Matthew 15 KJV
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doginventer wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2025 7:34 pm 10 And he called the multitude, and said unto them, Hear, and understand:
11 Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man; but that which cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man.
Matthew 15 KJV
This was his response to being questioned by the scribes and pharisees, when they asked,
1 Then come unto Jesus do they from Jerusalem -- scribes and Pharisees -- saying,
2 `Wherefore do thy disciples transgress the tradition of the elders? for they do not wash their hands when they may eat bread.'
Matthew 15:1-2 Young's Literal Translation
The question was about hand washing, before eating bread. Not cannibalism/meat4idols. I don't see a connection.
I don't believe he would've given the same answer, if they had asked about long pork. Do you?

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14 `But I have against thee a few things: That thou hast there those holding the teaching of Balaam, who did teach Balak to cast a stumbling-block before the sons of Israel, to eat idol-sacrifices, and to commit whoredom;
Revelation 2 Young's Literal Translation
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shewhomustbeobeyed wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2025 10:50 pm
I think Jesus said what he said (not just to the Pharisees, but to ‘the multitude’) fully aware of the full context, and meaning to say exactly what he said.
This is also what I believe Paul was saying, which is that the defiling He was concerned about was spiritually focussed and not hygiene focussed as we are in the world but not of the world, so if you decide to eat poison then the damage to your body is not the important thing, but the damage to your eternal soul, and that of those you may be influencing is.
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I don't really understand your answer to my question. Please don't think that I'm trying to have a gotcha moment. I'm not. I'm heartbroken.
Not for myself, not for those who accept paul AND keep the commandments. I'm heartbroken for those who say paul didn't lie, those who've believed his lies. Those who don't understand the Tares have been placed in the middle of the Wheat, by Rome. Not by believers, they(rome) are the deceivers. Always have been. And then I get angry. Working/praying on that part.
I'm not doing this to vex you. But i'm going to keep posting about, "Pa'al from Ba'al", "Sheol of Tartarus".
I'm thinking of parodying the song 'Polk Salad Annie' to 'sauls such a tranny'. kinda catchy and it works for both sauls, failed king and failed prophet.
Also, there can be only 12, not 13. stoopid paul.
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James v. Paul

https://www.jesuswordsonly.org/topicind ... -paul.html
https://archive.is/bAELk
https://web.archive.org/web/20241006043 ... -paul.html

The epistle of James is a clear and direct rebuttal of paul's nonsense. Here is a very useful chart - https://archive.is/bAELk#selection-743.0-743.31

Quotes from article:
Augustine in 412 AD wrote that James' epistle, along with 1 John and 2 Peter were aimed to refute the faith alone doctrine found in Paul's writings
"Apostolic Epistles of [Second] Peter, John, James and Jude direct their aim chiefly against it" [i.e., faith alone doctrine from Paul's "difficult to understand" words] so as to maintain with vehemance that faith without works profits not." (Augustine, Faith and Works (republished 1847) at 57.)
Luther wrote:
“Many sweat hard at reconciling James with Paul, but unsuccessfully. ‘Faith justifies’ [Romans 3:28] stands in flat contradiction to ‘faith does not justify’ [James 2:24.] If anyone can harmonize these sayings, I’ll put my doctor’s cap on him and let him call me a fool.”
In F.F. Powell's Robbing Peter to Pay Paul (2009) at 67, Powell aptly says: "James obviously believes that Paul is adding an erroneous tenet to the gospel."
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shewhomustbeobeyed wrote: Mon Feb 03, 2025 2:59 am stoopid paul.
Manages to source, quote, and reference scripture in cast iron support of all his teachings, sufficient to gain the support of Peter, James, and all the apostles, and to provide prophecy and insights into scripture which did more to spread the gospel than any other individual.
Whereas you and all his detractors can do no more than simplistic unsubstantiated misreadings and suppositions which you scatter about but fail to defend.
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doginventer wrote: Mon Feb 03, 2025 12:20 pm
shewhomustbeobeyed wrote: Mon Feb 03, 2025 2:59 am stoopid paul.
simplistic
Yes, that's me. Imma K.I.S.S. girl. All the way. (K.I.S.S. = keep it simple, stupid)
scatter about
What? I'm putting it all in one post. I would only scatter it about if you banned me from posting it here. Please don't ban me.
fail to defend
That's what I'm trying to work out, by posting the things I find, in one place.


Now you're making me feel sorry for all the believers who only have/had the Gospels, and the Commandments as their guide. Without Saint Paul's word salad to help them truly understand the 'secrets', their salvation is clearly in question.
How can anyone receive salvation without the words of of the Almighty Saint Paul to guide them?
Evidently they can't.
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shewhomustbeobeyed wrote: Mon Feb 03, 2025 5:52 pm
doginventer wrote: Mon Feb 03, 2025 12:20 pm
Yes, that's me. Imma K.I.S.S. girl. All the way. (K.I.S.S. = keep it simple, stupid)
The critiques of Paul are not simple at all.
What? I'm putting it all in one post. I would only scatter it about if you banned me from posting it here.
Scattered subject matter, not posts
Please don't ban me.
Not 1 ben here or elsewhere thus far.
That's what I'm trying to work out, by posting the things I find, in one place.
I have never challenged or criticised this.
Now you're making me feel sorry for all the believers who only have/had the Gospels, and the Commandments as their guide. Without Saint Paul's word salad to help them truly understand the 'secrets', their salvation is clearly in question.
14 Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless.
15 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;
16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.
17 Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness.
18 But grow in grace, and in the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and for ever. Amen.
2 Peter 3 KJV
How can anyone receive salvation without the words of of the Almighty Saint Paul to guide them?
Evidently they can't.
10 And he said, Unto you it is given to know the mysteries of the kingdom of God: but to others in parables; that seeing they might not see, and hearing they might not understand.
Luke 8 KJV
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