For the record...

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As you can tell, @Savesequim is our most charming resident here. He did a phone interview with a vampire once (it's a play on names) and I had hoped he'd post it on his new sub so people could have a little background of the kind of research that interests him. Sadly he's chosen to remain mostly vague with ominous overtones. I spent the better half of a day looking into what he finally revealed in his posts to you (background info on the companies involved, because I like to research and it wasn't something I had been following at the time, too distracted with PG research and then Q and got sucked into major drama) but who knows what conclusions he's drawn and whether or not those are correct. Who knows what his motives are tbh. Writing a book?

I wouldnt be opposed to writing a book on the subject, but for now it's pure personal interest. Like I've said before I watched Voat change from a tiny reddit alt to a key component in the Trump/Q movement. I appreciate what the site used to be, was dissappointed by its fall, and became intruiged by its shrouded history and the notable users operating here.

It was very similar to FreeRepublic which had a proto-Q during the Clinton impeachment called "Quidam". Corsi, Bannon, Stone, and Breitbart were all users of that site. Their later involvement in Q leads me to believe these partisan political psyops have developed over many years and platforms.

Another example would be Pieczenik's placement in the infowars/RW podcast nexus and his promotion of Thomas Drake's Operation Greenlight, SandyHook, and the Boston bombing

Understanding how these influence campaigns operate is important to stop the inevitable censorship and deanonymization of online discourse.

[shewhomustbeobeyed]

You think I’m that easy dontcha.

Ok just gimme the tendies :)

Whew! That was a close one.

[Savesequim]

As you can tell, @Savesequim is our most charming resident here. He did a phone interview with a vampire once (it's a play on names) and I had hoped he'd post it on his new sub so people could have a little background of the kind of research that interests him. Sadly he's chosen to remain mostly vague with ominous overtones. I spent the better half of a day looking into what he finally revealed in his posts to you (background info on the companies involved, because I like to research and it wasn't something I had been following at the time, too distracted with PG research and then Q and got sucked into major drama) but who knows what conclusions he's drawn and whether or not those are correct. Who knows what his motives are tbh. Writing a book?

I wouldnt be opposed to writing a book on the subject, but for now it's pure personal interest. Like I've said before I watched Voat change from a tiny reddit alt to a key component in the Trump/Q movement. I appreciate what the site used to be, was dissappointed by its fall, and became intruiged by its shrouded history and the notable users operating here.

It was very similar to FreeRepublic which had a proto-Q during the Clinton impeachment called "Quidam". Corsi, Bannon, Stone, and Breitbart were all users of that site. Their later involvement in Q leads me to believe these partisan political psyops have developed over many years and platforms.

Another example would be Pieczenik's placement in the infowars/RW podcast nexus and his promotion of Thomas Drake's Operation Greenlight, SandyHook, and the Boston bombing

Understanding how these influence campaigns operate is important to stop the inevitable censorship and deanonymization of online discourse.

There were certain aspects/topics of the 'prompts' that Q mentioned that attracted me as I like to research and/or read about corruption/history...
'Formulaic psyops?' (Ironic thing to say I know )

I remember reading this about Corsi but it's so TL/DR I can't easily sum it up. It's been a long time since I read it and it touches on so many events and public figures going way back. It'll be worth a reread on my part when I get a chance.

Chapter 5. The Poland Connection [64 min read]
Posted on March 20, 2018
https://hiddentaxonhumanity.com/hidden- ... onnection/ by Mel Rockefeller

Here's an assortment of excerpts, main focus is on Corsi with references to potential examples of "political psyops have developed over many years and platforms"

When Bill [Dufty] realized who I am and why we were introduced, he became a real friend and offered advice that helped me grasp the nonlinear “how” of this criminality, including the perps’ use of Hollywood to shape the national narrative. [See Chapter 8.] After an attempt on my life in New Orleans, he urged that I take the family surname to protect myself. [Bill had served as a speechwriter for Walter Reuther, legendary president of the United Auto Workers (UAW).]

...Bob Hertz who described himself as a nephew of the founder of the Hertz rental car company. Hertz, in turn, introduced me to Jerome Corsi in a luxury suite at the MGM Grand Hotel in Las Vegas. Hertz paid the reported $15,000 per night tab for the top-end “fantasy suite.”

Corsi immediately told me that he already knew my identity because “being in the anti-terrorism business, me and my partners routinely track Rockefeller family members.” Introducing himself as creator of the B’nai B’rith Mutual Fund in Israel, Corsi proposed that we establish a similar fund in Poland relying on Pyszczuk’s contacts.[5] As usual, I gave everyone benefit of the doubt while also anticipating this could be pre-staging for yet another fraud. I could have walked away. Instead I chose to proceed because the link to Poland suggested this would provide an opportunity to profile those at the core of this ancient duplicity. My intuition proved correct. Corsi was also the first person I heard use the phrase “preparing the minds” to describe what I had been profiling, including their use of cinema to manipulate the national consciousness.

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...According to Randy, the F.B.I. agents had no interest other than framing me for the Corsi-Lindner fraud even though Corsi and Amundson raised the funds and possessed the requisite securities licenses.[31] Randy also described how St. Paul Mayor Norman Coleman insisted that Randy provide the names of those who attended a meeting to discuss the fraud. Randy refused. A Jewish Democrat from Brooklyn, New York, Coleman was elected the Republican Senator from Minnesota on November 5, 2002, 11 days after the death of popular Democratic Senator Paul Wellstone in an airplane crash on October 25, 2002.[32] In 2008, he lost his Senate seat to comedian Al Franken. In February 2017, Coleman was appointed chairman of the Republican Jewish Coalition funded largely by casino magnate Sheldon Adelson and Mariam, his equally rightwing Israeli wife...

...I knew that (a) roughly 90 percent of the Israeli Knesset was then composed of Polish Jews, (b) the Fall of the Wall in 1989 traced its roots to Poland when the Solidarity labor union movement emerged from the Gdansk shipyards in 1980, and (c) Polish Pope John Paul II, the first non-Italian pontiff in four centuries, was then leading one of the world’s most corrupt institutions whose origins in antiquity traced back to those I was profiling. I also knew how the fall of the Berlin Wall was used to brand actor Ronald Reagan (a friend of my Uncle Bob) as a pop culture icon who brought an end to the Evil Empire, a national narrative granted worldwide credibility by those I was profiling.

In January 1995, Corsi, Piper Jaffray broker Brad Amundson,[6] Minnesota banker Randy Schwake[7] and I traveled to Poland to meet with Pyszczuk and others to discuss the founding of a mutual fund based on the B’nai B’rith model...

...In February, Corsi, myself and our partners met with key executives at Great American’s offices in Cincinatti. CEO Carl Lindner’s personal bio, posted on the American Financial Group website, describes him as “the largest non-Jewish contributor to Jewish causes in the U.S.”[10] Our group stayed in The Cincinnatian whose owner (Lindner) paid for our rooms. [See photo of us taken in front of the hotel.] It didn’t take long to confirm I was again being drawn into the fields within fields of relationships that sustain transnational organized crime.

...Confirming Jerome Corsi’s Complicity

In an October 1996 meeting in my suite at the Flemings Mayfair Hotel in London, I told David Alexander, CEO of Element Books Ltd., that I believed the Mossad was behind the serial frauds and the criminal stalking I encountered in Poland, Minnesota and elsewhere. I also told him I was working on a rewrite of a book chronicling my life experience. Alexander urged me to get back in touch as soon as the rewrite was complete.[33]

On September 7, 1997 I called Glenn Olds and told him that Alexander asked permission to give a copy of my manuscript to Scotland Yard. I also told Alexander that I was in the final rewrite of my book. My comments to Glenn were deliberately false. As I felt certain the Mossad was monitoring my calls, my call to Glenn was a ‘sting operation’ designed to elicit a response if, in fact, the perps were listening. Over the years, I discovered that I was better able to grasp how their cell structure operates if I periodically planted disinformation and then watched as it worked its way through other cells, enabling me to confirm connections between cells.[34] While they were stalking me, I was also stalking them.


...I explained that I would rather not discuss Corsi’s conduct over the phone and, the next day, sent a letter explaining the reason for my sting operation. On October 7, 1997, I received a fax response from Alexander expressing his concern that I used Element Books to run a (successful) sting operation outing Corsi as an Israeli agent.


Fields Within Fields…Within Fields, Again

During the Poland fraud, Corsi offered to introduce me to anti-terrorism expert Neil Livingstone whose “Crisis Management Inc.” business plan proposed to service the market for terrorist threats—well before 9/11.[36] Livingstone’s 1998 proposal highlighted his close ties to James Woolsey, C.I.A. Director from 1993 to 1995 during Russia’s massive privatization fraud that created a cadre of Russian-Jewish oligarchs. Woolsey merits a closer look to illustrate how I was routinely drawn into their networks of relationships.

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Meanwhile, repeated attempts by Ron and I to catalyze an investigation by federal and state law enforcement, dating from my July 1992 letter to Senator Joe Biden (then chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee), met with responses typified by Mark Cullers, Assistant U.S. Attorney in Fresno. Rather than investigate and follow the facts wherever they lead, in August 1993 he assured Ron: “If powerful people in government want someone killed it will get done. The fact that he has lived this long undermines his story.” Had I been dead, apparently my credibility would have been rock solid. Cullers’ response suggests that the fact I’m still alive continues to undermine my credibility.

Jerome Corsi—His Payoff

Corsi continued to perform as an Israeli agent. In return for his role in stalking me, he was made into a best-selling author of a series of books written to advance Israel’s long-term agenda. Those books include Unfit for Command—Swift Boat Veterans Speak Out Against John Kerry (2004). This book was published to help undermine the presidential campaign of Senator John Kerry and keep George W. Bush in office following the disputed 2000 presidential when the Supreme Court ruled Bush the victor. Those who produced the Bush presidency wanted this dysfunctional Christian Zionist in office to take the U.S. to war in reaction to the provocation of 9/11 reliant on intelligence fixed around Tel Aviv’s agenda. The U.S. invaded a nation that played no role in 9/11 as pre-staging to reignite an ancient Shia/Sunni conflict that allied Israel with the Sunni-dominant Gulf States against Shia-dominant Iran.

pictureJerome Corsi – Israeli asset/agent from whom I first heard the phrase “prepare the minds.” Corsi has since become the best-selling author of a series of prepare-the-minds books, including Unfit for Command (2004), Atomic Iran (2005), Minutemen (suggesting in July 2006 a Hezbollah terrorist attack in the U.S.), The Obama Nation (2008), et.al.

picture Jerome Corsi who I outed as a Mossad asset/agent in a 1997 sting operation in London. Corsi and Piper Jaffray broker Brad Ahmundson were integral to a fraud that took Minnesota investors for $1 million that the FBI refused to properly investigate. Instead, agents sought to portray me [Mel Rockefeller] as responsible. Corsi is named as the author of several best-selling Israeli psy-ops books, including Unfit for Command (2004), Atomic Iran (2005), Minutemen (2006), The Obama Nation (2008).

31. Corsi specialized in “distributing insurance and securities products and services through financial institutions.” See www.theUSAgent.com (now a “parked domain”). He boasted about his extensive inside knowledge of the impact of organized crime on the financial services industry, a claim consistent with the fact that our trip to Poland was financially sponsored by a firm controlled by Carl Lindner. ↑

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@kestrel9

While I'm not discounting all of the the Mel Rockefeller stuff, recognize he has no real proof he's a Rockefeller and changed his name in the 90's claiming to be the out of wedlock son of Nelson.

He was pushed hard by Fulford who claimed he was "elected as the new head of the Rockefeller clan". And Fulford was working with Steele and many other shady operators to push Q stuff or set the stage for Q

IMO Mel serves as disinfo/well poisoning. I have many questions about Corsi and his overt neocon and zionist leanings, but have been unable to verify much of Mel's history.

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@kestrel9

While I'm not discounting all of the the Mel Rockefeller stuff, recognize he has no real proof he's a Rockefeller and changed his name in the 90's claiming to be the out of wedlock son of Nelson.

He was pushed hard by Fulford who claimed he was "elected as the new head of the Rockefeller clan". And Fulford was working with Steele and many other shady operators to push Q stuff or set the stage for Q

IMO Mel serves as disinfo/well poisoning. I have many questions about Corsi and his overt neocon and zionist leanings, but have been unable to verify much of Mel's history.

Understood, in the end it would appear so much of stagecraft among these groups of players (I'm not so familiar with Mel's story, he was involved in the Poland fraud case), but my bias is that really, I don't like or trust Corsi. I didn't trust Steele, or Stone either, nor Jones and Pieczenik (with his over-the-top theatrical sycophantic praise of Alex Jones.)

Reportedly Corsi (and his partners Amundson and Mel R.) were supposed to pay for the fraud to at least 2 people. This writer quotes the story found here: (paywall https://archive.ph/BRiGH)

Bradley Amundson was at home in Minneapolis two weeks ago when a familiar face appeared on his television screen. It was Jerome Corsi - a blast from a humiliating time in Amundson's past. "I said: 'Hey, there's Corsi; what's he doing on TV?' " Amundson recalled.

Corsi was on a cable show, promoting his new anti-Barack Obama book, "The Obama Nation," but Amundson knows him in a very different context. Corsi, Amundson, and James M. "Mel" Rockefeller of Arizona were principals of a group that launched an investment venture in Poland in 1995 that eventually lost about $1.2 million, much of it raised from a group of about 20 Minnesota investors, Amundson said.

In his varied career as best-selling author, conservative journalist, and outspoken polemicist, Corsi has become one of the nation's most controversial political provocateurs. But the business deal that went sour before he became famous has made him the target of bitter criticism. Corsi's role as investor is perhaps the least known of his several careers. And 13 years after the Poland deal, the fingers of blame are still wagging. At least two of those investors won court judgments in separate cases filed in courts in Hennepin and Dodge counties in Minnesota against Corsi and his two partners to recoup a portion of the money lost in the Poland deal, but they never collected from Corsi.

"It was basically a worthless document," said one of those investors, David Splittstoesser, a cement contractor from Rochester, Minn. When his lawyer tried to collect, he found Corsi's assets "had been moved into his wife's name . . . There was nothing to get out of him," Splittstoesser told the Globe.

"No comment," Corsi said repeatedly in a telephone interview Monday in response to a series of questions about his role in the Poland investment.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2008/8/20/570921/-